[ale] off list Re: Website Conversion
Jay Lozier
jslozier at gmail.com
Wed Oct 31 18:05:48 EDT 2012
On 10/31/2012 04:58 PM, Bob Kruger wrote:
> This will be more difficult, and some additional programming/script
> work needs to happen. I won't go into it here, but if someone wants
> to take a look, email me directly for all that is involved.
>
> V/r
>
> Bob
Bob
I prefer to write my own html / css using the original material as much
as possible. Most of my experience has been with cleaning up desktop
produced html files from Word, etc. Also, I have found these files flunk
html validationand I tend being very picky about having valid html and css.
Another issue to consider is what html standard the various
programs/conversions produce. Officially the current standard is 4.01
but html 5 support is becoming morecommon with newer browser versions.
The most problematic browser for html 5 are older versions of IE.
Also, I just gotoff the phone with Fat Cow. They assign an account
manager for every account even informational ones.The account manager I
have has aUS accent and is in Arizona. Its notthe accent its the
location that is the problem. Mumbai support is off by about 12 hours
with the US. It is very hard to keep people on the night shift; I worked
night shift for 3 years and it has one major disadvantage that most
people it fouls up their life\. The churn can be very high on the night
shift. They are also 100% Linux.
Jay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Mathis
> Sent: Oct 31, 2012 4:51 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] Website Conversion
>
> I've only ever migrated one site off dotnetnuke. I used wget to
> spider the site and some sed foo to remove dotnetnuke crud from
> the files wget made. iirc it took about 2 hours of work.
>
> -Erik-
>
> On 10/31/2012 04:20 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>> On 10/31/2012 03:12 PM, Bob Kruger wrote:
>>> The current site is informational. Primary purpose now is to
>>> provide the organization's newsletter for download. For the
>>> future site, there is some e-commerce that would happen. Also,
>>> membership should be handled via the site using some sort of
>>> e-commerce application. Because there are different membership
>>> options (based on distribution of the newsletter, e.g.
>>> electronic, printed, or CD), we would like to see that handled
>>> via the site as well.
>>>
>>> Database is Microsoft SQL, but exporting and importing will not
>>> be that difficult and I can probably handle that.
>> It does not sound like it should be to difficult to migrate more
>> like tedious and possibly time consuming. You might want to
>> review the site's html to see how clean it is. I do not know how
>> messy the final code produce by DotNetNuke isor if tends produce
>> non-standard html.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jay Lozier
>>> Sent: Oct 31, 2012 2:55 PM
>>> To: ale at ale.org
>>> Subject: Re: [ale] Website Conversion
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2012 12:57 PM, Bob Kruger wrote:
>>>> All;
>>>>
>>>> I "inherited" maintainance of a website that is run via
>>>> DotNetNuke on a Microsoft server. To say that I am
>>>> undershwelmed is an overstatement. However, the site has
>>>> been up for a number of years, and site users have gotten
>>>> used to the look and feel. To change that would not be good.
>>>>
>>>> At the same time, the webhosting provider that I inherited,
>>>> e.g. webhost4life.com, has proven to be increasingly
>>>> incompetent and unresponsive with useless tech support from
>>>> Mumbai. All are sorry for my inconvenience, but they do
>>>> nothing to fix problems. Time for a change
>>>>
>>>> Iam looking for someone who can cross both Windows server
>>>> based systems and Linux based systems to migrate what we
>>>> have to a Linux based platform and software, but keep a
>>>> similar look at feel. And, there is compensation with this
>>>> project, e.g. not asking for free work.
>>>>
>>>> Any takers or recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> V/r
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> A couple of quick questions:
>>>
>>> What type of site is it (e-commerce, informational, etc.)?
>>> I am concerned about what security, data encryption, etc.
>>> that are required.
>>>
>>> Does it use a database (MS SQL Server most likely if it is
>>> MS based)?
>>> In principle migrating from one relational database to
>>> another is more a pain than especially difficult. Details
>>> such as indexing, views, etc may be troublesome in the
>>> conversion and there some differences in the SQL dialects.
>>>
>>> Is there any server side scripting and if so what language?
>>> My guess for an MS site is asp.
>>>
>>> There are several cheap, good hosting companies available
>>> and from what know transferring to another host is not
>>> terribly difficult. I think transferring is mostly about
>>> paying a fee and wait a few minutes and you are done.
>>>
>>> I have recently started working with Fat Cows
>>> (www.fatcows.com) for a couple of informational websites. So
>>> far they seem very good.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jay Lozier
>>> jslozier at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
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