[ale] flip flopping on programming, now interested in c++

Wolf Halton wolf.halton at gmail.com
Sat Jul 7 10:25:00 EDT 2012


It appears that you had wordwrap enabled,  mr.Kinney. I like code that
forms one long line 2000000 characters or more.using character encoding
'&ltd;'
-Wolf

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On Jul 7, 2012 10:03 AM, "Jim Kinney" <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> ilikecompilersthancanfigureoutmyspacebarisbrokenandidon'tusecapscorrectly:-)besidesclarityissooverrattedincodethat'swhyit'scalledcodeisn'tit
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > I like compilers that totally ignore whitespace for what it's worth.
> >
> > I'm glad you liked the summary. Based on discussions here, I'm probably
> > going to try the learn it myself plan, then develop some sort of
> portfolio
> > of work to show to potential employers, like a designer does.
> >
> > Leam is trying to get me to switch to the GO language. I am considering
> it.
> >
> > I'll be 47 this year, so I'm not TOO much of an old fart. However, I have
> > noticed that the teenie boppers behind the cash registers at stores look
> a
> > lot younger now. I've had some substantial setbacks. But, I'm going to
> try
> > to make the most of the last 1/3 - 1/2 of my life. I always try to keep
> > learning. I don't know that it was ever easy, but it certainly isn't
> getting
> > easier now.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> Mail.
> > Please excuse my potential brevity.
> >
> > (To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to former
> > messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
> > address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
> >
> > (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
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> quickly.)
> >
> > Ron Frazier
> > 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
> > linuxdude AT techstarship.com
> >
> >
> > Doug Hall <doughalldev at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, we've taken a small detour on the path to full employment, but
> >> just for the sake of equal time...
> >>
> >> I used to be of the same mindset with Geoffrey on whitespace. The
> >> language shouldn't force it on you. Then, I started using a web
> >> templating language - haml <http://haml.info/&gt; along with its sister
> >>
> >> product "sass" (for generating css) in creating web pages. It was only
> >> after using it for a while that I saw the true advantage of the
> >> whitespace enforcement. For one, it's shorter. There's less to type.
> >> Granted a curly brace takes up little room, and it's only one
> >> character (as opposed to the 'do', 'end' bookends in ruby, for
> >> example). But it's more than that. At least with haml, it also acts as
> >> a bit of a syntax checker. You have to try really hard to write
> >> invalid html in haml. The indentation shows haml precisely where to
> >> put the closing tags for you. Plus, all my source (when you view
> >> source on a rendered web page) is nicely formatted. I imagine Python
> >> has similar advantages. Also, if you have things too deeply nested,
> >> that's a sign you need to refactor (with or without whitespace
> >> enforcement).
> >>
> >> So, that's it in a nutshell. Don't knock it till you've used it for a
> >> while. In fact, remember me when you've left in one brace too many and
> >> can't find the sucker. Won't happen in Python! There are advantages to
> >> form and function working hand in hand.
> >>
> >> Ron, nice job on the summary. At 48, I'm a bit of an old fart myself.
> >> "Old" is a lot more abstract now than it ever was, however. ;-)
> >> Picking up new skills doesn't come as easily as it did when I was in
> >> my twenties. I will say that at our age, we're as likely to get hired
> >> by the breadth of our knowledge as the depth of it. You might be more
> >> employable as an Obi-Wan Kenobi, than as Luke Skywalker, as it were. I
> >> think you're on the right path, though. You've gotten some good advice
> >> here. And remember --- use the source. (ducking for cover)
> >>
> >> Doug
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