<p>It appears that you had wordwrap enabled, mr.Kinney. I like code that forms one long line 2000000 characters or more.using character encoding '&ltd;'<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 7, 2012 10:03 AM, "Jim Kinney" <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
ilikecompilersthancanfigureoutmyspacebarisbrokenandidon'tusecapscorrectly:-)besidesclarityissooverrattedincodethat'swhyit'scalledcodeisn'tit<br>
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On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE)<br>
<<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Doug,<br>
><br>
> I like compilers that totally ignore whitespace for what it's worth.<br>
><br>
> I'm glad you liked the summary. Based on discussions here, I'm probably<br>
> going to try the learn it myself plan, then develop some sort of portfolio<br>
> of work to show to potential employers, like a designer does.<br>
><br>
> Leam is trying to get me to switch to the GO language. I am considering it.<br>
><br>
> I'll be 47 this year, so I'm not TOO much of an old fart. However, I have<br>
> noticed that the teenie boppers behind the cash registers at stores look a<br>
> lot younger now. I've had some substantial setbacks. But, I'm going to try<br>
> to make the most of the last 1/3 - 1/2 of my life. I always try to keep<br>
> learning. I don't know that it was ever easy, but it certainly isn't getting<br>
> easier now.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> Ron<br>
><br>
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> Doug Hall <<a href="mailto:doughalldev@gmail.com">doughalldev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Okay, we've taken a small detour on the path to full employment, but<br>
>> just for the sake of equal time...<br>
>><br>
>> I used to be of the same mindset with Geoffrey on whitespace. The<br>
>> language shouldn't force it on you. Then, I started using a web<br>
>> templating language - haml <<a href="http://haml.info/&gt" target="_blank">http://haml.info/&gt</a>; along with its sister<br>
>><br>
>> product "sass" (for generating css) in creating web pages. It was only<br>
>> after using it for a while that I saw the true advantage of the<br>
>> whitespace enforcement. For one, it's shorter. There's less to type.<br>
>> Granted a curly brace takes up little room, and it's only one<br>
>> character (as opposed to the 'do', 'end' bookends in ruby, for<br>
>> example). But it's more than that. At least with haml, it also acts as<br>
>> a bit of a syntax checker. You have to try really hard to write<br>
>> invalid html in haml. The indentation shows haml precisely where to<br>
>> put the closing tags for you. Plus, all my source (when you view<br>
>> source on a rendered web page) is nicely formatted. I imagine Python<br>
>> has similar advantages. Also, if you have things too deeply nested,<br>
>> that's a sign you need to refactor (with or without whitespace<br>
>> enforcement).<br>
>><br>
>> So, that's it in a nutshell. Don't knock it till you've used it for a<br>
>> while. In fact, remember me when you've left in one brace too many and<br>
>> can't find the sucker. Won't happen in Python! There are advantages to<br>
>> form and function working hand in hand.<br>
>><br>
>> Ron, nice job on the summary. At 48, I'm a bit of an old fart myself.<br>
>> "Old" is a lot more abstract now than it ever was, however. ;-)<br>
>> Picking up new skills doesn't come as easily as it did when I was in<br>
>> my twenties. I will say that at our age, we're as likely to get hired<br>
>> by the breadth of our knowledge as the depth of it. You might be more<br>
>> employable as an Obi-Wan Kenobi, than as Luke Skywalker, as it were. I<br>
>> think you're on the right path, though. You've gotten some good advice<br>
>> here. And remember --- use the source. (ducking for cover)<br>
>><br>
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