[ale] VMPlayer 3 vs VirtualBox

[Wolf Halton]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com>wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 08:55 -0500, Wolf Halton wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Derek Atkins <warlord at mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > "Chesser.Damon" <Damon.Chesser at SunTrust.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > How about KVM using VNC with ssh, or ssh -X, or libvert manager?
> > >
> > > Personally I'd rather not provide login accounts to my VM
> > > administrators.  I would much rather provide them a web interface.
> > > KVM is a potential option; I need to explore the possibilities.
> > > That means I need to find the time to set up a test environment.  :)
> > >
> > > > Damon at damtek.com
> > >
> > > -derek
> > >
> > > --
> > >       Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
> > >       Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
> > >       URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/    PP-ASEL-IA     N1NWH
> > >       warlord at MIT.EDU                        PGP key available
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > Look into ProxMox - it uses KVM and has a good web interface.  I am using
> > it on a test server set-up, and I am prepared to open it up to our
> internal
> > software developers for test machines.  It takes regular ISO installs and
> > OpenVZ containers.
>
> Ok...  Hold the phone.  You just confused me.
>
> KVM and OpenVZ are two different critters.  KVM is hardware
> virtualization while OpenVZ is container virtualization similar to Linux
> Vservers, LXC, BSD goals, Solaris Zones, etc.  The two are not related.
> Are you saying that, in addition to supporting KVM, it also takes
> OpenVZ?
>
> That is what is working on my test server.


> For the record, I'm about to move the last of my installations of OpenVZ
> over to LXC after getting burn on a couple of OpenVZ kernel upgrades on
> RHEL 5.  It'll me LESS painful to upgrade the machines to RHEL6 and get
> the VMs migrated to LXC than continue to fight with the out of
> source-tree patches that OpenVZ requires.
> > This is good because OpenVZ containers use almost no
> > resources just to run.  VMs reserve a lot of resources, but OpenVZ
> > containers reserve no resources.  For capacity-planning purposes, you can
> > probably overbook resources by 10x when using OpenVZ-style virtual
> > machines.  A caveat: my test server-farm are low-traffic, low transaction
> > level at the moment.
>
> Yeah.  If it's Linux on Linux then OpenVZ / LXC containers are
> definitely the way to go.
>
> Run up a test server and see.  I am now trying to figure out iof I can
make a proxmox box on my ESXi server running recursive clouds.  I think the
answer is probably no*, but I will be testing it pretty soon here.
* I can't get a clearOS gateway (VM in ESXi)  to talk to its lan, yet, but
a proxmox box may be able to work..

-Wolf


> > Wolf
> > The only issue I have found is that it appears to need root access, but
> > someone on the list could correct me (please, thank you).
> >
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> Regards,
> Mike
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