<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Michael H. Warfield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mhw@wittsend.com">mhw@wittsend.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 08:55 -0500, Wolf Halton wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Derek Atkins <<a href="mailto:warlord@mit.edu">warlord@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > "Chesser.Damon" <Damon.Chesser@SunTrust.com> writes:<br>
> ><br>
> > > How about KVM using VNC with ssh, or ssh -X, or libvert manager?<br>
> ><br>
> > Personally I'd rather not provide login accounts to my VM<br>
> > administrators. I would much rather provide them a web interface.<br>
> > KVM is a potential option; I need to explore the possibilities.<br>
> > That means I need to find the time to set up a test environment. :)<br>
> ><br>
> > > <a href="mailto:Damon@damtek.com">Damon@damtek.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> > -derek<br>
> ><br>
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> > Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory<br>
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> ><br>
> ><br>
> Look into ProxMox - it uses KVM and has a good web interface. I am using<br>
> it on a test server set-up, and I am prepared to open it up to our internal<br>
> software developers for test machines. It takes regular ISO installs and<br>
> OpenVZ containers.<br>
<br>
</div>Ok... Hold the phone. You just confused me.<br>
<br>
KVM and OpenVZ are two different critters. KVM is hardware<br>
virtualization while OpenVZ is container virtualization similar to Linux<br>
Vservers, LXC, BSD goals, Solaris Zones, etc. The two are not related.<br>
Are you saying that, in addition to supporting KVM, it also takes<br>
OpenVZ?<br>
<br>
</blockquote><div>That is what is working on my test server.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">For the record, I'm about to move the last of my installations of OpenVZ<br>
over to LXC after getting burn on a couple of OpenVZ kernel upgrades on<br>
RHEL 5. It'll me LESS painful to upgrade the machines to RHEL6 and get<br>
the VMs migrated to LXC than continue to fight with the out of<br>
source-tree patches that OpenVZ requires.<br>
<div class="im">> This is good because OpenVZ containers use almost no<br>
> resources just to run. VMs reserve a lot of resources, but OpenVZ<br>
> containers reserve no resources. For capacity-planning purposes, you can<br>
> probably overbook resources by 10x when using OpenVZ-style virtual<br>
> machines. A caveat: my test server-farm are low-traffic, low transaction<br>
> level at the moment.<br>
<br>
</div>Yeah. If it's Linux on Linux then OpenVZ / LXC containers are<br>
definitely the way to go.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div>Run up a test server and see. I am now trying to figure out iof I can make a proxmox box on my ESXi server running recursive clouds. I think the answer is probably no*, but I will be testing it pretty soon here. <br>
* I can't get a clearOS gateway (VM in ESXi) to talk to its lan, yet, but a proxmox box may be able to work..<br><br>-Wolf<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">
> Wolf<br>
> The only issue I have found is that it appears to need root access, but<br>
> someone on the list could correct me (please, thank you).<br>
><br>
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</div>Regards,<br>
Mike<br>
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