[ale] just installed LibreOffice in Linux, should have been easier

Sun Mar 13 09:23:00 EDT 2011

Hi there

I'm in Ubuntu  Maverick

Here is the  ppa for Libre Office

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu maverick main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu maverick main

I was there three weeks after the creation of Libre Office Fundation.

Advantages:

Install Libre Office with one click
Uninstall Open Office with the same click
Finally, keeps you with the last version of libre office

There is a ppa for any need in Ubuntu. :)

My Top five list ppa

*Wacom tablet out of the box with the last driver.*

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu  maverick  main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu  maverick  main

*Mplayer last version " Nvidia aceleration":)*

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu  maverick main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu  maverick
main

*GIMP one window  :() Less clutter*

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu maverick main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu maverick
main

*Synapse a quick launcher that works with  zeitgeist engine** *

deb  http://ppa.launchpad.net/synapse-core/ppa/ubuntu  maverick main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/synapse-core/ppa/ubuntu  maverick main

*My favorite browser*

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu maverick main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu maverick main

Even though you become a tester with some of them, these releases  are
pretty stable  in my experience.

Enjoy

Pablo

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Ron Frazier <atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
>
> See replies in line.
>
> On 03/11/2011 09:31 PM, Don Lachlan wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Ron Frazier
> > <atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> Steps to remove OpenOffice on Linux:
> >> 01) Access the software center
> >> 02) Select OpenOffice word processor and click remove.
> >> 03) Select OpenOffice spreadsheet and click remove.
> >> 04) Select OpenOffice database and click remove.
> >> 05) Select OpenOffice presentation and click remove.
> >> 06) And do the same for 1 or 2 more.
> >> 07) Access Synaptic package manager.
> >> 08) Search for openoffice.
> >> 09) Filter by installed programs only.
> >> 10) Manually select each of about a half dozen items and select
complete
> >> removal and apply.
> >>
> > What are steps 1-6 for? AFAIK, you only need to remove the package in
> > 7-10. Also, I don't think that steps 7-10 are cumbersome, especially
> > since it is a single interface to search/install/uninstall, compared
> > to three different UI on Windows. In your Windows checklist, you
> >
>
> I went to the software center in hopes that I could remove just one
> thing the way I did in the Windows control panel.  I found 5 or 6
> things, and proceeded to remove them.  I was hoping I was done, but went
> to Synaptic to find out.  I found still more openoffice entries, and
> removed them.  Searching for openoffice in Synaptic initially led to a
> large number of search results, and it would have been difficult to
> highlight them all and select them for removal.  Also, it's difficult to
> know if they should be removed, depending on how they are titled.
>
> > skipped two install steps:
> >
> > pre-01a) Search internet for software package
> > pre-01b) Navigate to download page.
> >
> >
>
> True, but the same two items were required to do the Linux procedure.
>
> > Larger projects are usually easy to find and navigate, but lots of them
are not.
> >
> >
> >> Steps to install LibreOffice on Linux:
> >>
> > Well, that is a cumbersome process. However, when I searched for
> > "libreoffice install", the first result was for a method to install
> > via APT (synaptic):
> >
> >
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-gets-3-3-0-stable-version-released-ppa-installation-instructions-included.html
> >
> >
>
> I wish I had known this at first.  I just went to libreoffice.org and
> went to their download page and followed their instructions.  There was
> no mention of this process whatsoever.  I didn't see any need to search
> outside of the project's own site.
>
> >> Also, this should have been in the Ubuntu repositories, or LibreOffice
> >> should provide a repository of their own.  As far as I know, I
> >> completely bypassed the Synaptic / Apt package manager.  So, does
anyone
> >> know how I can get Synaptic / Apt to understand that his new
application
> >> is there and auto update it?
> >>
> > There does appear to be a community Ubuntu repo for LibreOffice.
> > Because of the popularity, it will probably be in the main Ubuntu
> > 11.04 repo, when that is released.
> >
> > LibreOffice may not offer a repository, but it did package it for
> > Ubuntu. From personal experience, packaging software for a dozen
> > different Linux distributions (and each of their supported versions)
> > is a MASSIVE task. If you're also expecting them to maintain an APT
> > repository for Ubuntu (and a different repo for RHEL and SLES and
> > Debian, etc.), I think that's an unfair expectation.
> >
> >
>
> I don't really understand the difference between a repository and a
> package.  However, I don't think point and click and go installs for the
> top 5 Linux systems, with integration to that system's package manager,
> is too much to ask.
>
> > Synaptic is just a front-end to APT, which is just an interface for
> > dpkg; if you installed packages via dpkg, then Synaptic will see them.
> > To upgrade the packages, Synaptic needs to access to a repository that
> > has new packages - the link above will tell you how to add that.
> >
> >
> I did use dpkg, as described in the installation instructions.  However,
> I can find no evidence that LibreOffice is installed on my system,
> either in Synaptic, nor in Software Center.  I even tried the first two
> commands in the link you sent, to add the PPA and update the database.
> Still nothing.  At this point, I'd like to get rid of the original
> install, if possible.  and reinstall using the procedure you linked to.
> I don't know how to do that.  I could just activate the new procedure
> using APT, but then I might have two duplicate, possibly conflicting
> installs of LibreOffice.  Help!?
> > I think part of the issue here is one of expectations. Most GNU/Linux
> > users install software in two ways: via their distribution's package
> > manager and via tarball. Young projects often rely on tarballs but
> > they get picked up by distributions as they mature. Right now, it's
> > new.
> >
> >
> I don't have a big problem with tarballs, kind of like a zip file.
> However, I think I should be able to extract it, click on the result,
> and the application should install and hook into the package manager for
> auto updates and easy uninstalls.
> > Also, we could code a menu option for "uninstall" for each package, or
> > we could tell users "Go to your distribution's package manager and
> > remove it there". The second option saves developer time and maintains
> > a consistent UI for the user.
> >
> > -Lachlan
> >
> >
> >
> As I mentioned above, it's very hard to install or uninstall something
> like LibreOffice or Java, for example, from Synaptic.  Doing a search
> will yield many lines and you don't know what to select.  Now, I
> wouldn't want to get rid of Synaptic, since it is very useful.  However,
> for something like this, I just want to go to software center, acquaint
> it with a provider's website, if needed, click LibreOffice, and click
> install, and have it all work.  If I want to uninstall it, I just want
> to click that one app name, and click uninstall.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
> --
>
> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new messages very quickly.)
>
> Ron Frazier
>
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