[ale] Canonical makes Apple look so good...

[Jim Kinney]

BINGO!!! You nailed it!
On Mar 8, 2011 10:04 PM, "Chuck Payne" <terrorpup at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Michael B. Trausch <mike at trausch.us>
wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 19:14 -0500, Dan Lambert wrote:
>>> I am amazed at this group sometimes.
>>>
>>> Virtually every commercial entity that is mentioned on here is
>>> vilified and criticized to the extreme. If any of them don't meet the
>>> expectations of this group in every regard, they are instantly put on
>>> par with the most despised corporations on the planet.
>>
>> I can't speak for others, but that is hardly my position; I'm just of
>> the position that for-profits need not take money out of the pockets of
>> non-profits.  Just because an entity is a non-profit does not mean that
>> it is fit to have money pulled from its pockets by some for-profit
>> somewhere.
>>
>>> I understand and appreciate the superior efforts of FOSS devotees, and
>>> am particularly impressed by the Debian team of developers, and their
>>> contributions to the open source community.
>>>
>>> I want to remind everyone of the fact that BUSINESSES are in BUSINESS
>>> to make a PROFIT. They are not charities, and some (most) of them use
>>> any opportunity possible to extract a small percentage of profit from
>>> every aspect they can.
>>
>> And that they should, so long as it's not stepping on the toes (or
>> indeed, plainly kicking to the curb) some other entity, for-profit,
>> non-profit, individual, or otherwise.  Even in business, there are
>> ethical considerations.  Being a for-profit does not exempt an entity
>> from those ethical considerations.
>>
>>> If any of you are in the management of, or own a corporation, you are
>>> fully aware of the need to make a profit, or you go out of business.
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>>> If any of you want to blast me for my position, go ahead. I work for
>>> one of those evil FOR PROFIT businesses. It's kept my family fed, and
>>> put my children through school. I used to own my own business, and I
>>> can tell you for a fact that working in the corporate world is a hell
>>> of a lot easier, because I don't have to worry about how to meet
>>> payroll, or how to eke enough profit out to pay my own bills.
>>
>> To each their own.  I'd rather not deal with the drama or the politics
>> if at all I can avoid it.  That said, if it came down to working a W-2
>> position again or not eating, I'd obviously take the W-2 over not
>> eating.
>>
>> Do I think that there are nasty corporations out there?  You bet'cha.  I
>> don't subscribe to the view that corporations have to acquire their
>> revenue by taking it from others.  Quite the contrary, I think that
>> corporations should get their revenue by providing the best service they
>> can and making the customer as happy as reasonable without sacrificing
>> itself.  Happy customers come back; forced customers also come back, but
>> only grudgingly, and only until there are other viable options.  It is
>> better to build a business on happy customers than it is to build a
>> business on the notion that you're the only game in town.
>>
>> It's also better to build a business through honest work, and not by
>> turning the revenue stream for non-profits down.
>>
>> Or said another say, just because one *can* do something, does not mean
>> that one *should* or *ought to*.  Canonical certainly *can* take money
>> away from the GNOME Foundation; Banshee is licensed under the terms of
>> the MIT license.  That neither means that it is a morally (or ethically)
>> proper action, nor that they should or ought to.  If they are
>> struggling, there are other ways to survive (and truly, if Canonical
>> cannot survive by honorable means, it should survive by no means at
>> all).
>
> Is it me or does no one see how Canonical is in away acting like SCO?
> Or am I away off?
>
>
>> Integrity and honor are arguably as important in the world of business
>> as outside of it.  Should we disagree on that, however, then we've
>> nothing further to converse about.
>>
>>        --- Mike
>>
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