[ale] Canonical makes Apple look so good...

[Lightner, Jeff]

Ouch.

 

I'm a RedHat fan but do need to point out that RedHat did annoy many in
the Linux world when they first introduced RHEL as distinct from old
RedHat Linux.    They began support of the Fedora project as a result of
that outcry IIRC.   For commercial use though RHEL definitely is the one
most 3rd party software vendors seem to build along with Suse to a
lesser degree.  I also heard (but didn't see) a story last week about
how RedHat is now going to release source bundles already patched to try
to slow down upstream builds from its source such as Oracle EL and
CentOS.

 

I've never used Ubuntu myself but have seen a lot to suggest it has been
the distro of choice for many for their personal systems at least.   My
guess is it isn't going to go away any time soon.  

 

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Kinney
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:37 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Canonical makes Apple look so good...

 

Thanks for the link. I know many ale's have chugged the ubuntu koolaid
so appologies upfront.
Cannonical is desperatly trying to justify their existsnce as a business
entity. RedHat is the 800 pound gorilla in the room of non-microsoft
platforms. RH "fractured" the community with their support of gnome over
kde. They didn't go after kde and try and break it. Cannonical needs a
history lesson in open source projects. 
If something doesn't work the way you want it to, use the open source
way then innovate and present a solution path to the community.  It
worked for gnome in the past. 
Ubuntu seems to be focused on "improve the user experience for Ubuntu "
often at the expense of the open source community at large. They need to
learn that they are just an offshoot of Debian that has cash for
marketing and they are no where near being in charge. 
The patches Ubuntu makes to the user interface only work for Ubuntu
builds and not generically for Debian. They would like to be RedHat but
they lack the vision and sense of community that has driven RedHat and
Debian and Slackware for years. Cannonical is the first non-innovator
business to enter the open source market that has actually managed to
gain some traction. They need to mature a lot and recognize that without
the marketing cash they would only be another rebranding bit player.
Ubuntu has always struck me like the sleazy groups that sell a cd of
OpenOffice.org as a product they make for $25. 
Cannonical has not yet earned the privilege and responsibility to sit at
the table with Debian and RedHat and SuSE and Slackware (or even
Mandriva, Gentoo or Knoppix). They have a long way to go to catch up to
they likes of their predecessor distro and arrogance will not accelerate
their actual importance.
I personally look forward to their implosion and subsequent decline into
has-been status. It can't happen soon enough soon enough for me and, I
also think, the open source community at large.

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