[ale] How to test your public internet connection for open ports

[Jim Kinney]

Please take a chill pill.
On Feb 11, 2011 6:14 PM, "Michael Trausch" <mike at trausch.us> wrote:
> Please feel free to point out anything that I said that you feel is a
> personal attack. Feel free to point out anything that I have said that is
> factually incorrect, and point out why in an objective manner. Otherwise,
I
> don't care to hear/read it.
>
> If "you are wrong" is an attack, well, then there are a lot of people
worthy
> of "attack". You are making statements that range anywhere from just
> misinformed to completely off the fucking wall, and standing by their
> (perceived, by youself anyway) correctness without bothering to read up on
> anything that has been discussed here. You are spreading misinformation,
> simply put. Now, I might not be able to call out Gibson for it, because he
> is not here for it to matter nor be relevant. And frankly, pursuing such a
> thing is really not worth my time.
>
> I can't speak for everyone, but I have the opinion that this group exists
> for us to help and learn from each other. That cannot happen in an
> environment where misinformation is allowed to go uncorrected. I and
others
> here are absoutely willing to explain things (sometimes repeatedly if
> necessary!) to those who are willing to be receptive. Otherwise, we're all
> just wasting our time. I don't know about others, but I sure do hate
wasting
> my time.
>
> You acknowledge others' expertise, but only as a backhanded compliment.
Your
> sentences are constructed such as to be insulting and "holier than thou"
in
> some cases, particularly in some of your responses to my mails (such as
your
> continued claims WRT NAT in responses to my messages). You are careful to
> heavily qualify things so as to make the implication that it is okay to
> blatently disregard helpful standards of communication on your own little
> island. Repeatedly you state that your "advanced" knowledge is sufficient
> for you to help others.
>
> A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Your posts and the misinformation
> in them is a prime example of why. Your lack of desire to reference the
> standards AND YET CONTINUE THE THREAD is why you are looking more and more
> like an Internet troll. You'll note that I did not say that you *are* an
> Internet troll. But your posts on this thread sure do seem that way. You
> persist with your claims instead of doing the rational thing, which would
be
> to study the referenced materials (and doing some independent research
using
> the standards themselves) before continuing. I fail to understand why.
>
> Moreover, I am not sure why whether or not I know you has a bloody thing
to
> do with any of this. If the implication there is that I would need to know
> you better in order to better understand where you are coming from, I
don't
> see how that'd be helpful at all. Information---lots of it---has been
> provided to you, without so much as a single advertiser putting one red
cent
> in any of our pockets to post on this list. You have been repeatedly
> referred to the RFCs where there is absolutely correct information in
order
> to clarify your misconceptions. Still, you insist that you are correct
when
> in fact you would appear not to really have a clue.
>
> Furthermore, absolutely none of this thread has been about opinions. I
find
> it excessively common that people hide behind the vague notions of "just
my
> opinion" and "interpretation". Discussing philsophy or religion is one
> thing. Discussing computer networking & security, especially in the
context
> of best practices and standards, is another thing entirely. Its not like
we
> are talking about anything new, bleeding-edge, or experimental here.
>
> --
> Sent from my phone... a G2 running CM7 nightlies!
> On Feb 11, 2011 4:51 PM, "Ron Frazier" <atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com>
> wrote:
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