<p>Please take a chill pill.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 11, 2011 6:14 PM, "Michael Trausch" <<a href="mailto:mike@trausch.us">mike@trausch.us</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Please feel free to point out anything that I said that you feel is a<br>
> personal attack. Feel free to point out anything that I have said that is<br>> factually incorrect, and point out why in an objective manner. Otherwise, I<br>> don't care to hear/read it.<br>> <br>> If "you are wrong" is an attack, well, then there are a lot of people worthy<br>
> of "attack". You are making statements that range anywhere from just<br>> misinformed to completely off the fucking wall, and standing by their<br>> (perceived, by youself anyway) correctness without bothering to read up on<br>
> anything that has been discussed here. You are spreading misinformation,<br>> simply put. Now, I might not be able to call out Gibson for it, because he<br>> is not here for it to matter nor be relevant. And frankly, pursuing such a<br>
> thing is really not worth my time.<br>> <br>> I can't speak for everyone, but I have the opinion that this group exists<br>> for us to help and learn from each other. That cannot happen in an<br>> environment where misinformation is allowed to go uncorrected. I and others<br>
> here are absoutely willing to explain things (sometimes repeatedly if<br>> necessary!) to those who are willing to be receptive. Otherwise, we're all<br>> just wasting our time. I don't know about others, but I sure do hate wasting<br>
> my time.<br>> <br>> You acknowledge others' expertise, but only as a backhanded compliment. Your<br>> sentences are constructed such as to be insulting and "holier than thou" in<br>> some cases, particularly in some of your responses to my mails (such as your<br>
> continued claims WRT NAT in responses to my messages). You are careful to<br>> heavily qualify things so as to make the implication that it is okay to<br>> blatently disregard helpful standards of communication on your own little<br>
> island. Repeatedly you state that your "advanced" knowledge is sufficient<br>> for you to help others.<br>> <br>> A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Your posts and the misinformation<br>> in them is a prime example of why. Your lack of desire to reference the<br>
> standards AND YET CONTINUE THE THREAD is why you are looking more and more<br>> like an Internet troll. You'll note that I did not say that you *are* an<br>> Internet troll. But your posts on this thread sure do seem that way. You<br>
> persist with your claims instead of doing the rational thing, which would be<br>> to study the referenced materials (and doing some independent research using<br>> the standards themselves) before continuing. I fail to understand why.<br>
> <br>> Moreover, I am not sure why whether or not I know you has a bloody thing to<br>> do with any of this. If the implication there is that I would need to know<br>> you better in order to better understand where you are coming from, I don't<br>
> see how that'd be helpful at all. Information---lots of it---has been<br>> provided to you, without so much as a single advertiser putting one red cent<br>> in any of our pockets to post on this list. You have been repeatedly<br>
> referred to the RFCs where there is absolutely correct information in order<br>> to clarify your misconceptions. Still, you insist that you are correct when<br>> in fact you would appear not to really have a clue.<br>
> <br>> Furthermore, absolutely none of this thread has been about opinions. I find<br>> it excessively common that people hide behind the vague notions of "just my<br>> opinion" and "interpretation". Discussing philsophy or religion is one<br>
> thing. Discussing computer networking & security, especially in the context<br>> of best practices and standards, is another thing entirely. Its not like we<br>> are talking about anything new, bleeding-edge, or experimental here.<br>
> <br>> --<br>> Sent from my phone... a G2 running CM7 nightlies!<br>> On Feb 11, 2011 4:51 PM, "Ron Frazier" <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com">atllinuxenthinfo@c3energy.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br></div>