[ale] Virtualization question

Mon Nov 8 11:24:34 EST 2010

The issue here is vmware vcenter _ONLY_ runs on windows. AND it really
requires a MSSQL server installation to support it.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:

>   Given that many things made for “open systems” have Windows management
> stations or tools I don’t think it’s fair to chide VMware for it.   VMWare
> of course allows for Windows guest systems as well and many folks that use
> it ONLY use it for Windows guests.
>
>
>
> What really got me was when HP started making HP-UX management tools that
> only ran on Windows.  Go figure.
>
>
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> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Joshua
> Kite
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:46 PM
> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> *Subject:* Re: [ale] Virtualization question
>
>
>
> Unfortunately VMWare has not moved away from their Windows-only tool.  It's
> a bad choice, and I don't understand why a thick client is required to
> simply manage guests.  I can understand it for conversions, etc., but not
> for management.
>
> I haven't had a chance to play with the SDK.  Supposedly there is one for
> Linux, but I haven't worked with it yet.
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Richard Bronosky <Richard at bronosky.com>
> wrote:
>
> Has VMWare fixed the situation of their management tool (VSphere if I
> remember correctly) only running on windows? I don't care how great
> their product looks. It is just plain stupid to make your software
> only run on the OS of a company who has entered the market for the
> purpose of shutting down your business. I don't use products by
> organizations who demonstrate such stupidity.
>
>
> On 11/6/10, Joshua Kite <jwkite at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thank you both for your replies.  I just realized that I had a
> > misunderstanding about the vmware license.  I'm going to give that one
> more
> > try.
> >
> > This is the first that I've heard about LXC.  That's very interesting
> > functionality, but I have to read up on it more.  KVM and VirtualBox are
> > probably good choices if ESXi doesn't work out for me.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Josh Kite
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Scott <John.Scott at peak10.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>  If you want easy with x86 compatibility and not have to change your
> base
> >> OS preference, check into VirtualBox.  You can get the host hypervisor
> via
> >> apt-get on ubuntu and there is good documentation available on
> >> virtualbox.org.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of
> >> *Joshua
> >> Kite
> >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:02 AM
> >> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> >> *Subject:* [ale] Virtualization question
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I am looking for advice on how to set up some virtual environments for
> use
> >> at home.
> >>
> >> I have a server, and I want it to have two distinct functions.  One is
> >> network filtering, etc. using squid and some other applications.  The
> >> other
> >> is my basic web/file/print server.  I may want to play with something
> else
> >> in the future, so virtualization seems like the right choice.
> >>
> >> The hardware that I have available is a dual xeon hyperthreaded 32 bit
> >> machine.  And that's the problem.  I would like to run a bare-metal
> >> hypervisor, but all of the current ones seem to be for 64-bit only.
>  That
> >> makes sense, but it doesn't work for me.  I actually installed the
> >> previous
> >> version of VMWare's ESXi only to find out that the free license will
> only
> >> allow me to make use of one of the processors once the trial period is
> up.
> >>
> >> So the next option appears to be a light OS for a host system with a
> >> hypervisor running inside of it.  I have run Ubuntu for both desktop and
> >> server for the past 5 or so years, but I am willing to consider other
> >> distributions for both host and guest for the network filtering OS.
>  I'll
> >> probably use Ubuntu for the web/file/print functionality since I'm most
> >> familiar with it.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting with my home server for weeks after a crash, and
> I'm
> >> kind of tired of playing with it, so I am looking for a very dumbed
> down,
> >> easy solution with step by step instructions for installation and
> >> automatic
> >> startup of guests.
> >>
> >> Do any of you have recommendations?
> >>
> >> Thank you very much,
> >>
> >> Josh Kite
> >>
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