[ale] Ale Digest, Vol 29, Issue 34

Sun Jun 6 13:32:59 EDT 2010

If I ever sell a couple of my servers and laptops (I am broke with no full
time employment), I will buy one, just to throw android on it, and other
Linux distros for the heck of it.

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>   1. Re: OT: has anyone on the list tried out one of the chinese
>      7" netbooks that ebay is being flooded with yet? (Byron Jeff)
>   2. Re: OT: has anyone on the list tried out one of the chinese
>      7" netbooks that ebay is being flooded with yet? (Damon L. Chesser)
>   3. O'Reilly's "X Power Tools": Way Fun (Charles Shapiro)
>   4. Re: OT: has anyone on the list tried out one of the chinese
>      7" netbooks that ebay is being flooded with yet? (Brian Pitts)
>   5. Re: O'Reilly's "X Power Tools": Way Fun (mute wonder)
>   6. ReSolved:  TFTP in ubuntu-9.04 -- a well-worn path (John Mills)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:17:32 -0400
> From: Byron Jeff <byronjeff at clayton.edu>
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: has anyone on the list tried out one of the
>        chinese 7" netbooks that ebay is being flooded with yet?
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
> Message-ID: <20100605161732.GA8914 at clayton.edu>
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> On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:13:26AM -0400, Van Loggins wrote:
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Android-7-WiFi-mini-laptop-Netbook-ul-thin-450MHz-2GB-/110537856068?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item19bc91d444
> >
> > I was looking at getting one with the google android OS on it instead of
> the windows CE 5.0 variants I've seen
>
> My daughter won one in a contest. I haven't gotten around to trying to
> install Linux on it yet.
>
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with one and what your
> thoughts were on it.
>
> Small, slow, cheap, cheesy. Almost like a toy.
>
> But for sub $100 and the tiny form factor, it has just enough accessibility
> to be marginally useful.
>
> >
> >
>
> > I'm looking at getting one or maybe one of the google tablets like this
> > one
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/7-Google-Android-notebook-Netbook-Tablet-PC-UMPC-MID-/160439967941?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item255af7a0c5
> > instead.
>
>
> Looks about the same as the others.
>
> It may be worth $100 just to play. But walk in with low expectations.
>
> BAJ
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> >
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback.
> >
> >
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> Byron A. Jeff
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:53:49 -0400
> From: "Damon L. Chesser" <damon at damtek.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: has anyone on the list tried out one of the
>        chinese 7" netbooks that ebay is being flooded with yet?
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
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> On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 12:17 -0400, Byron Jeff wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:13:26AM -0400, Van Loggins wrote:
> > >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Android-7-WiFi-mini-laptop-Netbook-ul-thin-450MHz-2GB-/110537856068?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item19bc91d444
> > >
> > > I was looking at getting one with the google android OS on it instead
> of the windows CE 5.0 variants I've seen
> >
> > My daughter won one in a contest. I haven't gotten around to trying to
> > install Linux on it yet.
> >
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with one and what
> your thoughts were on it.
> >
> > Small, slow, cheap, cheesy. Almost like a toy.
> >
> > But for sub $100 and the tiny form factor, it has just enough
> accessibility
> > to be marginally useful.
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > I'm looking at getting one or maybe one of the google tablets like this
> > > one
> > >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/7-Google-Android-notebook-Netbook-Tablet-PC-UMPC-MID-/160439967941?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item255af7a0c5
> > > instead.
> >
> >
> > Looks about the same as the others.
> >
> > It may be worth $100 just to play. But walk in with low expectations.
> >
> > BAJ
>
> Well, of course it is not a work horse.  I have been looking at the
> tablet things for a while.  I am thinking if they have a terminal and
> ssh they make a pretty good tool for the admin.  Sadly I am told the
> Ipad does not have a terminal built in and you have to hack it and that
> is not reliable yet.
>
> What about android?  Will that give you network access w/terms and ssh?
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for your feedback.
> > >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:19:27 -0400
> From: Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
> Subject: [ale] O'Reilly's "X Power Tools": Way Fun
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>
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> Wow, X_Power_Tools_ ( Chris Tyler, O'Reilly Books, 2008) is really
> fun!  I've pretty much used X as a horse, but learning about xdpyinfo
> and starting **two** X servers on at once on my dev box was pretty
> neato!  This book could change my attitudes.
>
> -- CHS
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:22:03 -0400
> From: Brian Pitts <brian at polibyte.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: has anyone on the list tried out one of the
>        chinese 7" netbooks that ebay is being flooded with yet?
> To: damon at damtek.com,   "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!"
>        <ale at ale.org>
> Message-ID: <4C0A87BB.3060301 at polibyte.com>
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> On 06/05/2010 12:53 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > Well, of course it is not a work horse.  I have been looking at the
> > tablet things for a while.  I am thinking if they have a terminal and
> > ssh they make a pretty good tool for the admin.  Sadly I am told the
> > Ipad does not have a terminal built in and you have to hack it and that
> > is not reliable yet.
> >
> > What about android?  Will that give you network access w/terms and ssh?
>
> I don't think I'd want to bash on the onscreen keyboard of a 7" tablet
> for very long.
>
> The trouble with all the android tablets is that google does not allow
> them to access the android market. Only phones are allowed to do that.
> Thus installing new software may be challenging.
>
> Any time I've seen devices like these mentioned on engadget it's a case
> of 'you get what you pay for'. Personally I'd love to play with one of
> the $100-$200 android tablets coming out of the Asian market, but I
> wouldn't pay that price unless I could return it.
>
> --
> All the best,
> Brian Pitts
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 15:57:41 -0400
> From: mute wonder <mutewonder at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] O'Reilly's "X Power Tools": Way Fun
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>
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> I fiddle around with settings a lot, but don't get into the
> behind-the-scenes, 'power user' stuff much.  For instance, I ran 2 X
> sessions simultaneously for the first time just a few months ago. :/
>
> So kudos, and any other neat things in there?
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Wow, X_Power_Tools_ ( Chris Tyler, O'Reilly Books, 2008) is really
> > fun! ?I've pretty much used X as a horse, but learning about xdpyinfo
> > and starting **two** X servers on at once on my dev box was pretty
> > neato! ?This book could change my attitudes.
> >
> > -- CHS
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:07:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: John Mills <johnmills at speakeasy.net>
> Subject: [ale] ReSolved:  TFTP in ubuntu-9.04 -- a well-worn path
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1006051554100.16614 at otter.localdomain>
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> Paul -
>
> Thanks - it was very useful to examine recent updates in detail.
>
> I didn't see any explicit changes to tftpd, xinetd, or iptables: these
> were mainly updates of the Linux kernel binary, source, and headers.
> Something may have been hidden in the postinstall activities, but nothing
> stood out clearly.
>
> HOWEVER when I went back over '/etc/xinted.conf' and '/etc/xinetd.d/tftp'
> I did notice a problem _I_ introduced somewhere in my thrhashing about:
> the TFTP service 'user' was still 'root'. I changed it to 'nobody' and was
> back in business. I still have no explanation why I had to reconstruct
> this file, but "any landing you walk away from is a good landing" (and one
> pilot friend says, "Any landing you can walk away from and still use the
> plane is an _excellent_ landing!").
>
> Certain firewalls still seem unhappy to pass UDP on port 69, but I'm not
> sweating the small stuff just now.
>
> I _sure_ hope this doesn't become a recurring event.
>
> Thanks to all who replied: I learned more about my 'ubuntu' installation
> -- always worthwhile time invested.
>
>  - Mills
>
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>
> > On Sat June 5 2010, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >> In Fedora-land there's a log file /var/log/yum that tracks when and what
> on
> >> updates. I'm sure Ubuntu has a similar log (I would be shocked if it
> >> didn't).
> >
> > try /var/log/apt . here is a tail of mine ( update done this morning)
> > paulandcilla:/var/log/apt# tail *.log
>  ...
>
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