[ale] copiers: one more thing to be paranoid about

[Jim Kinney]

Probably can't delete with the drive in the machine. External delete will
likely ruin the drive from the machine viewpoint.

I wonder how many copiers are using some form of embedded Linux as their OS.
I've seen Linux used at a few places on some _big_ copiers (that had hard
drives and "security").

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:

> The article talked about people doing simple forensics to get data and
> gave examples of what they were able to get off 3 used copiers they
> bought for this.   If you think none of the bad guys know how to do this
> then there's no need for a firewall on your PC either.
>
> It did mention encryption being available on some models as an add on
> cost.
>
> What got me was that you couldn't delete without an add on cost either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg
> Freemyer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:20 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Subject: Re: [ale] copiers: one more thing to be paranoid about
>
> I did not read the article, but in general it is a bear to recover
> files from a copier.
>
> They often use proprietary filesystems etc.
>
> So it is not as simple as mounting a drive partition and copying off
> files.
>
> I don't know if they ever encrypt or not as well.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:49 AM, William Fragakis <william at fragakis.com>
> wrote:
> >
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/19/eveningnews/main6412439.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> > blurb
> > "Nearly every digital copier built since 2002 contains a hard drive -
> > like the one on your personal computer - storing an image of every
> > document copied, scanned, or emailed by the machine.
> >
> > In the process, it's turned an office staple into a digital time-bomb
> > packed with highly-personal or sensitive data.
> >
> > If you're in the identity theft business it seems this would be a pot
> of
> > gold.
> >
> > "The type of information we see on these machines with the social
> > security numbers, birth certificates, bank records, income tax forms,"
> > John Juntunen said, "that information would be very valuable.""
> >
> >
> > - William
> >
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