[ale] Since we're on the subject of jobs lately

[Geoffrey]

Pete Hardie wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM, JK <jknapka at kneuro.net> wrote:
>> Pete Hardie wrote:
>>> 2008/7/16 Warren Myers <volcimaster at gmail.com>:
>>>> I'd argue that the company is trying to sell itself to you - and that if you
>>>> show up all decked-out that you're over doing it, and they'll know they
>>>> don't have to try hard to get you.
>>>>
>>>> If you're competent - and you don't show up looking like a total slob -
>>>> they'll want you.
>>>>
>>>> I never show up in anything more interesting than pants and a polo or
>>>> short-sleeve button-up shirt. If they're that stuffy, I don't want to work
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Course, if you *like* suits and ties (I haven't worn either in over 10
>>>> years), then go for it.
>>>
>>> I'd consider that there are a great many people involved in the hiring
>>> process that are not
>>> judging your competence by how you answer questions - the HR people,
>>> the managers,
>>> the directors, etc.  They are not going to ask you to solve a problem,
>>> they are going to
>>> look at your appearance, manners, and such.  And many of *those*
>>> people are not the
>>> "best and brightest" so they *do* consider attire in the equation.
>>
>> And if those are the people making the hiring decisions, you
>> probably don't want to work there.
> 
> Name a mid-large business where those people don't have input into the
> decision.  Not all of the
> jobs are at small companies.

AT&T, at least when I was there.  The HR folks only processed people 
after they were hired.  We identified applicants and interviewed them. 
Once we decided they were right for the job, then we turned it over to 
HR, where the did on the mundane stuff. (drug testing, background checks..)

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey

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