[ale] Debian 3.0 as a server platform?

[James Sumners]

When I am setting up a server I want the bare minimum so that I can
decide what is on the machine. No installer is ever going to be smart
enough to figure that out.

Notice that I never said it isn't possible to trim down SuSE or Red
Hat or Mandrake down to something manageable during install. I said
that by _default_ they install way too much for a single CD
installation. I said that the Debian install system doesn't install
all of that junk unless you specifically tell it to. If you think
about, that is actually a much easier, less time consuming, way to do
things.

Now, I would appreciate it if you would not try to insult my
intelligence by saying that I can't do what a 13 year old can.

On 6/4/05, Geoffrey <esoteric at 3times25.net> wrote:
> James Sumners wrote:
> > That is my point. With Debian you don't have to go through extra steps
> > to get a basic install. It defaults to the most basic GNU/Linux OS you
> > can have. See my response to ChangingLinks for more on this one.
> 
> So, what does the average user want?  a minimal install or a maximum
> one?  Neither, likely somewhere inbetween.  SuSE, Mandrake and RH give
> you what they expect the general server or desktop is going to need.
> 
> I'm most familiar with Suse and it will look at your hard drive and
> suggest the best solution it 'thinks' is going to suite the average
> user's needs as well as available space.  Generally it's kde desktop
> with X.  If you have less space, it will suggest a non-kde X
> environment.  If you have even less, it will default to the minimal install.
> 
> Further, the person who wants a minimal install is most likely going to
> be knowledgable enough to figure out how to do that.  I mean, come on,
> how difficult is a gui point and click install?
> 
> My daughter installed 9.2 on her computer with me sitting by her side.
> I walked her through things to watch for.  She has since upgraded to 9.3
> on her own.  She's 13.  Even she is able to determine what she want's or
> doesn't want when installing.
> 
> --
> Until later, Geoffrey
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