[ale] Debian 3.0 as a server platform?

[Thomas Holmquist]

On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 22:01 -0400, Geoffrey wrote:
> Thomas Holmquist wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 20:41 -0400, Geoffrey wrote:
> > 
> >>Thomas Holmquist wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 23:06 -0500, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>For those "Debian Defenders" out there, it would be positive if they could 
> >>>>point out features Debian has that CAN'T be found with other distros.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Lemme list a few reasons I use Debian-stable on my servers:
> >>>1.) Extremly stable - Nothing changes, nothing breaks.
> >>
> >>I can say the same for Red Hat and SuSE.
> > 
> > yes, but nothing has changed since 2002 - that means an ultra available
> > server that needs not go down for upgrades.
> 
> Gee, why didn't you stay with Debian 1.0, you could still be running 
> since 1997 without needs to go down for upgrades (or security patches??)
> 
> No security patches to your kernel since 2002?  You are asking for 
> trouble.  I could easily be still running Red Hat 5.0..

No, you see, there's a big difference between a reboot and a system
upgrade ex. RH 7.2 -> 7.3...

> 
> >>>2.) Works on all sorts of architectures/hardware. (Hell, my Zaurus PDA
> >>>runs Debian!)
> >>
> >>And what server processes are you running on your Zaurus?
> > 
> > 
> > Never said it was a server, but yes, it does run SSH, and has (in the
> > past) run thttpd, boa, apache, and a VNC server, hell it runs X, that's
> > a server ;)
> 
> You started off your response with:
> 
> 'Lemme list a few reasons I use Debian-stable on my servers:'
> 
> So that item is irrelevant to your posting.

It was an example :)

> 
> >>>3.) Works great on old hardware.
> >>
> >>Slackware.
> >>
> >>
> >>>4.) Has a small install footprint, It's using a whole 250 MB on one of
> >>>my computers. (this is from a normal debian install, on a production
> >>>box, I in no way tried to lighten up the install.)
> >>
> >>Slackware has it beat.  I've gotten it under a 100 mb (10.1).
> > 
> > 
> > whoops sorry I had a kernel in /usr/src... let's exclude that... 
> > 167mb including gcc, and perl
> 
> Still got you beat.
> 

Damn Small Linux: Debian based

40mb (compressed (I think))(with GUI)

Pebble Linux: Lightened Debian
~40mb (uncompressed)(no GUI)

> >>>5.) THE LARGEST software repository available for any distro.
> >>
> >>Can't argue with you there, but I've yet to find something I need that 
> >>wasn't available on RH or SuSE.  After all, how many browsers does one 
> >>really need.
> > 
> > well let's see... in my case... 6 browsers.
> 
> Right.
> 

It seems in your argument(s), in order to "debunk" Debian, you brought
in 3 Distros, RH, SuSE, and Slackware. Seems kinda weak don't you think?