[ale] upgrading glibcx to glibc2.2.4...........
Courtney Thomas
ccthomas at joimail.com
Sat Sep 20 12:09:57 EDT 2003
Thank you for the kind assistance.
I'll try it ASAP.
Courtney
matty91 at bellsouth.net wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Courtney Thomas wrote:
>
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>
>>Sorry, neglected to answer your questions......
>>
>>FreeBSD 4.3release. I know I'm not up to date but this thing is so
>>stable I don't reboot for months and don't upgrade for years usually
>>until forced to do so to capture some functionality I won't do without
>>any longer. When I do 'upgrade' I don't really upgrade, I just save old
>>necessary data [mine not system] and use a new CD to install from
>>scratch. I'd like to upgrade and stay current but it seems quite
>>elaborate. I guess once you get a working sequence of commands written
>>down it might not be so formidable looking. Dunno.
>>
>>
>
>Building kernels and "the world" is really easy. Here is my
>cheat sheet:
>
># cvsup -g -L 3 /etc/cvsup/src.conf
># rm -rf /usr/obj/*
># cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
># cp GENERIC OSCAR
># Customize OSCAR or use a prior KERNEL build
># Add IPFILTER/IP STACK options to OSCAR
># cd /usr/src
># make buildworld
># make buildkernel KERNCONF=OSCAR
># make installkernel KERNCONF=OSCAR
># boot to single-usermode (I don't boot to single user mode)
># make installworld
># mergemaster
># sh /dev/MAKEDEV all
>
>
>
>>I'm ashamed to say that I started back with 2.x and have leaned almost
>>nothing since it is so solid and needs no attention. But I do need to
>>since it is the server for about 10 computers.
>>
>>As far as add-ons, there are many packages and ports installed.
>>
>>What are the advantages of Mozilla ?
>>
>>What is Mozilla-Firebird ?
>>
>>I did delve into the upgrade system but it was daunting and I didn't
>>have a spare machine, so that was the end of that.
>>
>>Cordially,
>>Courtney
>>
>>
>>
>>Kenneth W Cochran wrote:
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>>>>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:11:27 -0500
>>>>From: Courtney Thomas <ccthomas at joimail.com>
>>>>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [ale] upgrading glibcx to glibc2.2.4...........
>>>>
>>>>Thanks so much for the wise words.
>>>>
>>>>I've not upgraded anything so momentous as glibc on FreeBSD so am
>>>>gratified to learn of it's power and flexibility.
>>>>
>>>>If you wouldn't mind providing a bit more precise synopsis of the
>>>>process to which you prefer I'd be most grateful.
>>>>
>>>>Cordially,
>>>>Courtney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>What version/release of FreeBSD are you running?
>>>Are its add-ons installed as packages or were they built
>>>
>>>
>>>from ports? (Packages are precompiles ports, ports are
>>
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>>>built from source.)
>>>
>>>Commands you need to know about:
>>>
>>>pkg_version
>>>pkg_info (especially "pkginfo -R")
>>>pkg_delete
>>>pkg_add
>>>kldload
>>>kldunload
>>>kldstat
>>>
>>>Also, knowing how to use the Ports Collection would be a Good Thing(tm).
>>>
>>>Installed ports/packages are "registered" in /var/db/pkg/*
>>>Warning - do *not* fiddle with stuff in that directory
>>>hierarchy except with the pkg_* commands (e.g. look but
>>>don't touch ;).
>>>
>>>FreeBSD has a port/package called "linux_base" (which
>>>contains *lots* of stuff, glibc being only a part of it) and
>>>a package for Netscape7. Sinnce ns7 runs under Linux
>>>emulation, it requires linux_base & Linux support in the
>>>kernel (usually loaded/enabled as a kernel module).
>>>
>>>So, your steps will be (perhaps roughly) as follows:
>>>0. Make sure no Linux applications are running.
>>>(remove things)
>>>1. Make sure the linux support is unloaded from your running kernel.
>>> kldstat tells you what modules are loaded.
>>> "kldunload linux.ko" unloads the Linux module.
>>>2. pkg_version tells you the version of your linux_base.
>>>3. pkg_info -R will tell you the dependencies of that
>>> package. pkg_info also has a switch that lists the files
>>> comprising an installed port/package.
>>> For example: "pkg_info -R linux_base-7.1_5" will output
>>> a list of the installed packages/ports that depend on
>>> linux_base-7.1_5.
>>>4. "pkg_delete" will delete things, naturally ;)
>>> You need to pkg_delete everything that depends on linux_base-x.y_z.
>>>5. Then pkg_delete linux_base-x.y_z (the version *must*
>>> match, i.e. you need to completely specify the package name
>>> on the command line).
>>>(add things)
>>>6. pkg_add your new (updated?) linux_base.
>>>7. pkg_add whatever things depend on linux_base.
>>>
>>>Note that you might need to "kldload linux.ko" after step 6,
>>>in case the install script(s) for the Linux applications
>>>need to run something in Linux-mode.
>>>
>>>The pkg_* commands (or make install in ports) will take care
>>>of things like the runtime linker & ld things.
>>>
>>>This process is explained in fairly elaborate detail in the
>>>FreeBSD Handbook, available at http://www.freebsd.org/
>>>
>>>Having done this several times before, this entire process
>>>takes me about 5 minutes, & on a running system & requiring
>>>no reboots, etc. :) But I do this via ports instead of
>>>packages & that's different. :) (Instead of pkg_add, it's
>>>cd /usr/ports/foo && make && make install)
>>>
>>>And fwiw, Mozilla & Mozilla-Firebird available for FreeBSD
>>>in native-mode & buildable from source. :) I use them; on
>>>a pIII/667, they take about an hour each to build.
>>>
>>>-kc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kenneth W Cochran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:23:26 -0500
>>>>>>From: Courtney Thomas <ccthomas at joimail.com>
>>>>>>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [ale] upgrading glibcx to glibc2.2.4...........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks so much James.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What you recommend is what I plan, i.e. to unfurl the the whole mess in
>>>>>>an 'isolated' directory and merely link what I hope is the only missing
>>>>>>link, i.e. the requisite shared lib.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Or maybe I should say I think that's what you recommend :- )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My env is FreeBSD running under linux compatibility mode and the calling
>>>>>>app is Netscape7.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Aaaah, in that case, then you should use the FreeBSD
>>>>>toolset/package management system to delete &
>>>>>re-add/upgrade that. :) In case of FreeBSD, glibc is not
>>>>>required by the OS itself & is only required by the Linux
>>>>>emulation "layer" and any Linux executables. As long as
>>>>>you delete its dependencies first (or use portupgrade I
>>>>>think {shrug}) you can even update/replace glibc on a
>>>>>running system (I've done it a couple of times).
>>>>>
>>>>>-kc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>Courtney Thomas
>>s/v Mutiny
>>lying Oriental, NC
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