[ale] RH8.0: first impressions
cfowler
cfowler at outpostsentinel.com
Sun Mar 2 18:42:36 EST 2003
I did an strace to see what wland actually did. It seems that it is a
program that allows configuration of a card and it not required during
communications on that network. It must be required since ifconfig is
really clueless of SSID's, WEP, and other 802.11b features. So a user
land program is only required to get the card up and running in the
first place. Kismet will also use this method to configure the card for
use with kismet.
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 18:05, cfowler wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 10:40, Joe wrote:
> > There isn't, the way mine was set up. Maybe you were using the
> > kernel's internal PCMCIA code. I used the pcmcia-tools package and the
> > associated kernel patch (and disabled PCMCIA support in the stock
> > kernel).
> >
> What about wlan? Is that not a required package? I have not looked to
> see what actually wland does but I assumed it was required to keep that
> program up. If true, then that would be the user space layer.
> >
> > -- Joe Knapka
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 22:36, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 19:28, Joe wrote:
> > > > > Got the ISOs, burnt them, blew Slack 8.1 off of my laptop and fired up the
> > > > > Anaconda installer.
> > > > >
> > > > > The good:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Very simple install.
> > > > > - Very nice looking screens all over the place.
> > > > > - Detected and set up the video, display, mouse, and kbd correctly, first try.
> > > >
> > > > Yep!
> > > > >
> > > > > The bad:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Good lord, it's slow. I don't know how they did it, but they figured out
> > > > > how to make Linux perform like Windows.
> > > >
> > > > Nautilus is nice, but there is a serious performance hit.
> > > >
> > > > > - It has no clue about the sound (which is 100% SB compatible).
> > > >
> > > > It may be due to a sound chip using an odd DMA setting.
> > > >
> > > > > - It has no clue about my PRISM2 802.11b card. I was using the wlan-ng
> > > > > driver with it under Slack, but RH doesn't include wlan-ng, so it's
> > > > > trying to use the wvlan_cs driver. I've made that work before, but
> > > > > not with WEP, and RH doesn't know how to configure PCMCIA netcards
> > > > > (or so it seems).
> > > >
> > > > Due to the pre-beta aspect of large parts of the wlan-ng stuff (lots it
> > > > ready for release, but other parts are still flaky) My USB prism2 is not
> > > > supported at all (it is claimed to be but...)
> > > >
> > > > I've had good luck with pcmcia under RedHat. It has "just worked". The
> > > > new "wizard" stuff is bit too windowish but you can set the device to
> > > > use for each ethx device
> > > > >
> > > > > [OK, I just found the "Internet Connection Wizard", which seems to want
> > > > > to let me set my WEP key and ESSID, but it still won't hook up with
> > > > > my AP... grr. It keeps resetting the ESSID to "non-spec".]
> > > > >
> > > > > All in all, I'm a bit disappointed so far. Maybe I need to give it
> > > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > I have yet to play with 8.1, but what I have read is it has a much need
> > > > speed boost from nautilus and the window manager. 8.2 should be great :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Joe Knapka
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> There is a time where abstractions lead to the inablity to
> fix problems that leak through the abstraction.
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/LeakyAbstractions.html
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