[ale] OT: Re: posting to Linux mail list

[Christopher Fowler]

A decent CRM like ACT! or GoldMine needs to be written also.


On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 08:08, walter Sams wrote:
> Geoffrey has a good reply to the MS marketer
> 
> A cattle rancher should not feed the wolves hoping they will leave.  
> >From my business perspective, all linux needs to take over the desktop
> now is a fax program to compete with winfax.  Once someone is able to
> write this and make it available for under 400.00 There will be no need
> to buy MS products to run an office.  Then let them show me how they
> will save me money instead of bleeding me dry with licensing, upgrades
> and support. 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 09:53, David Corbin wrote:
> > I'm with Geoffrey on this.  MS business policy/strategy is to lock their 
> > customers in.  I don't see how telling them what we want is going to convince 
> > them to change.   All you're doing is telling them WHERE they should be 
> > locking their customers in.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday 19 December 2003 09:33, Chris Ricker wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Geoffrey wrote:
> > > > I'll let you know.  I'll give you my perspective.  I personally see
> > > > Microsoft as a marketing company that tries to write software.  You'll
> > > > not get a lot of pleasant responses from me or, I suspect from this
> > > > group.
> > >
> > > My take is a bit different than yours, Geoffrey. Let the man post his
> > > survey and we can tell him what we'd like from Microsoft.
> > >
> > > What I'd like from MS is true interoperability. Open formats, open
> > > standards, open protocols. Changing this would not hurt MS sales, either.
> > > The world already has all the MS-only shops it's going to get. For the rest
> > > of us in the real world working in multivendor environments, dealing with
> > > MS proprietary lockin is extremely expensive and painful, and hurts MS
> > > sales in such environments. We actively look for open solutions just
> > > because we have to integrate with everything from Windows to Linux to other
> > > Unix to mainframes. MS products don't get considered very long with such
> > > needs because they're not suitable.
> > >
> > > later,
> > > chris
> > >
> > > PS In case it's not clear, by open I mean standard, documented, and
> > > unencumbered by patents, not necessarily free or open source.
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