[ale] [OT] [CONTRACT WORK OFFERRED] Perl Programmer(s) inAtlanta

[Mike Millson]

I think it depends on the T&Cs of the website you are scraping. Trespass
of chattels would apply if you use data that you are not authorized to
use or if you use it in a way that exceeds the scope of your
authorization. In any event, I think someone could easily write their
T&Cs to prevent you from using the data. But alas, I'm not a lawyer...

Mike

On Tue, 2003-04-08 at 16:31, hbbs at attbi.com wrote:
> I read the description here and I had two thoughts:
> 
> 1.  Aren't Web sites that are being "scraped" in this fashion suing the
> scrapers?  I feel like I've seen that sort of situation described on Slashdot
> (so it HAS to be true, right?).
> 
> 2.  Barring that, I see a seriously flawed assumption - that the Web sites being
> scraped will stay the same, i.e., will lend themselves to consistent, accurate
> scraping over time.  If I were running one of these sites and I didn't want to
> be scraped, I'd have my guys muck about with the code so as to alter the HTML
> but without significantly altering the visible result at the browser.  Even so,
> the kinds of routine or sweeping Web site alterations that one sees on most any
> e-commerce site (e.g., Expedia, eBay, 1-800-CONTACTS) would likely break the
> scraping every time.  So, it seems to me that even if you got all this perfectly
> coded at some point, it would almost always be broken by no fault of your own. 
> It's job security, sure, but who wants to rely on a scrape site that is
> continually breaking?
> 
> - Jeff
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I posted this offer of Perl development contract work to the Atlanta.pm
> > mailing list (Atlanta Perl Mongers), and Keith Watson suggested I should
> > post it here too.
> > 
> > Please read below if you are (1) a Perl developer with good experience,
> > (2) available and interested in some contract work.
> > 
> > Stephen
> > 
> > At 02:26 PM 4/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >We need to employ one or more Perl contractors in Atlanta soon.
> > >(part time or full time)
> > >
> > >I sent out a message earlier about this (and got one qualified response),
> > >but the requirements have changed a bit, so I am sending this again.
> > >
> > >CONTRACT DESCRIPTION
> > >
> > >We have developed a framework for searching Hotel web sites and Car Rental
> > >web sites to find the available rates which they are offering.  We navigate
> > >the sites, parse the HTML, and return structured data as though we were
> > >reading from a database.
> > >
> > >We are currently scanning Travelocity (http://www.travelocity.com) in this 
> > >way.
> > >
> > >We need additional Perl programmers to develop modules for other web sites
> > >using the approach and the framework which we have demonstrated works well
> > >for Travelocity.
> > >
> > >We are using a combination of WWW::Mechanize (built on LWP::UserAgent),
> > >HTML::TokeParser, and the App-Context, App-Repository, and App-Widget
> > >distributions from the P5EE project.  (see the following references)
> > >
> > >http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/01/22/mechanize.html
> > >http://search.cpan.org/author/PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize/lib/WWW/Mechanize.pm
> > >http://search.cpan.org/author/GAAS/HTML-Parser/lib/HTML/TokeParser.pm
> > >http://www.officevision.com/pub/p5ee/
> > >
> > >COMPANY BACKGROUND
> > >
> > >We are a small Internet ASP (Application Service Provider) that has
> > >about 8 employees and is currently *profitable*.  We are growing the
> > >company slowly and surely.
> > >
> > >We serve the travel industry to help them understand their competitive
> > >position in the marketplace (i.e. the prices they offer, relative to the
> > >prices offered by their competitors).
> > >
> > >WHAT TO DO
> > >
> > >If are interested and available, please email me back directly (not through
> > >the Atlanta.pm list)
> > >Please send your resume too of course.
> > >And let me know what your availability to work is:
> > >    * how soon? how much? (full time? part time?)
> > >
> > >The ideal candidate(s) would have good experience and skill in software
> > >development in perl, have good experience with web applications/HTML/HTTP,
> > >be available for full-time work soon, and be interested in this engagement
> > >turning into full-time employment in due time if all went well.
> > >
> > >Stephen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
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> > >Atlanta-pm at mail.pm.org
> > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/atlanta-pm
> > 
> > -------------
> > 
> > Keith R. Watson                        GTRI/ITD
> > Systems Support Specialist III         Georgia Tech Research Institute
> > keith.watson at gtri.gatech.edu           Atlanta, GA  30332-0816
> > 404-894-0836
> > 
> > 
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