[ale] [Fwd: [Am-info] Advanced Micro Devices will includeMicrosoft's Palladium]

[James P. Kinney III]

I hate to mention this, but there is a large array of technology devices
at the component level that are already on the "restricted for civilian
use" list. Things such as clock crystals of certain frequencies and
special logic IC's are already under tight control and basically illegal
for mere mortals to buy, or even possess. 

I expect that the industry will happily split its product line. Just
like the old Intel chips that failed testing with the on-chip numeric
processor had them burned off and repackaged as -SX series, these new
chips that fail the DRM test will be burned and then sold at a premium
for the server crowd.

The black market in computer equipment is already huge. Wait until an
entire class of processors becomes available to the little guy only
through your local "dealer"

"It's OK kids. The first chip's free!"

On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 18:02, Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> Of course, this makes Sharpies illegal under the DMCA.
> 
> What I want to know is, will there be a "split" in CPU manufacturing
> such that "server" CPUs and "home PC" CPUs will fork apart such that the
> home PCs will get all this corporate/consumer crap but there will still
> be "real machines" available.  The thing is, The Man won't let that
> stand, because people will just figure out how to buy and use the "real"
> stuff.
> 
> Now, I know that the way that copyrighted material is handled is broken
> now, but I have trouble seeing a fix that's anything other than
> fascist.  Will the day come when it's ILLEGAL to have a CPU that will
> run the software you want to run?  OK, suppose the day comes when Intel
> and AMD only make chips that run what Microsoft wants you to run.  How
> would you run your own operating system (Open Source OSses count)?  The
> Alpha AXP?  PowerPC?   What if those CPUs die on the vine (as Alpha is
> said to be doing, by the hand of HP)?  
> 
> Can there be an Open Source CPU - completely open specification - such
> that anyone with the equipment can build it?  Will the Feds shut them
> down like moonshiners?  I just don't see a path that doesn't lead to
> some kind of totalitarian control.  
> 
> I have said before that working with Linux rejuvenated my interest in
> the IT industry; if I can't work with it anymore because it's become
> illegal to have a CPU that it will run on, I'd just as soon change my
> line of work.
> 
> - Jeff 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 16:25, Dow Hurst wrote:
> > I am sure someone in the hacker community will find a huge hole in the 
> > scheme that renders it useless anyway.  I am not going to lose sleep 
> > over it.  It sound terrible but so have so many other things.  We are 
> > just seeing the backlash from corporate business trying to hold on to 
> > market share and such.  I have a lot of faith in the Linux/Unix hacker 
> > community after watching the challenges being overcome in the past few 
> > years.  I do plan to voice my opinion to whoever I can about the dangers 
> > of the Palladium scheme.  I noticed an article about some fancy CD 
> > encryption now on millions of music CDs that supposedly keeps it from 
> > being copied.  Some special coding around the outside  or inside edge of 
> > the CD.  Well, someone found out that you could just use a permanent 
> > magic marker to black out the encoding and render the scheme useless. 
> >  This was in CPU magazine, which was a cool magazine too!  They compared 
> > the $1.49 marker cost to subvert the encryption to the million dollar 
> > development and implementation cost of bringing the scheme to market. ;-)
> > Dow
> > 
> > 
> > Geoffrey wrote:
> > 
> > > This does not sound good..
> > >
> > > Advanced Micro Devices will include Microsoft's Palladium "trusted" --
> > > meaning Microsoft-  approved software only -- support in its next
> > > generation of chips, according to published reports.
> > >
> > > http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=232
> > >
> > >
> > 
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