[ale] [OT] Re: [ale] Bangalore Bill

[F. Grant Robertson]

Make no mistake, corporate taxes or not.. corporations _do not_ pay
taxes. "How is that!?!?" you say. Allow me to explain.


Any tax paid by a for profit corporation is only a redistribution of tax
from you the consumer to they, the corporation. Corporations, being in
the business of making a profit, will set price points that make profit
possible. The existence of corporate taxes only passes along a surcharge
to the consumer, whoever they may be.  And, if you want to make the
argument that some corporations are b2b only, and therefore escape this
equation, feel free.. however, remember that at some point every single
thing purchased by any corporation eventually makes it to the open
market. Whether that be in the form of a product (a combination of items
purchased from several suppliers(corporations)  or a service (a
combination of labor + supplies, purchased from some other corporation)
it is eventually served to some end user, i.e. the consumer. The
consumer (wage earner) will _always_ feel the effects of any tax placed
either directly on them, or on any company they do business with.  The
only avenue to avoid this would be to live in isolation, growing your
own food without the benefit of purchased supplies (fertilizer, seed,
equipment, etc..) and that, is so terribly unlikely as to be considered
impossible.  

I really think some of you need a lesson in basic economics..
Unfortunately your not going to get that in a government school. Why
not? Because it is in the best interest of the federal government to
keep you as uninformed on matters that allow _you_ the individual to
think for yourself. I bet your going to tell me next that we live in a
democracy..  

As long as the masses believe in fairly tales like corporate taxes, or
democracy, we will continue to slip further and further into debt, and
closer and closer to the evils of socialism.

-G

"It's great to learn, 'cause knowledge is power" - School House Rocks.



On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 08:48, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> The only thing you left out was to close the tax loopholes that allow
> corporation to earn billions and pay no taxes. GE, Enron, and several
> others have managed to avoid paying taxes on the billions they earned in
> profits while our schools were cramming 35 kids into a trailer called a
> classroom in front of a single teacher who is supposed to train these
> kids to become good employees of these companies.
> 
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 00:39, Joseph A Knapka wrote:
> > F. Grant Robertson wrote:
> > > I have zero respect for a Commander in Chief who openly protested the US
> > > military on foreign soil.
> > 
> > I have a lot of respect for a president who'd advocate such an
> > unpopular, but just and moral, position. IMO the US has no legitimate
> > overseas "interests" that justify deploying American military
> > personnel. Our "interest" in the Mideast is just govspeak for
> > "oil", and we can do without it, and do our children and their
> > children an enormous favor to boot by weaning this nation from
> > its filthy fossil-fuel habit. (I ride my bike a lot.)
> > 
> > If I were running for president, which I'm sure I'll never do,
> > I'd run on the following platform:
> > 
> > - Get the US independent of foreign oil.
> > - Maintain the most effective military apparatus on the
> > planet, but use it solely in a defensive capacity.
> > - Money saved by withdrawal of foreign military
> > operations to be used in part to finance worldwide,
> > ideologically-neutral humanitarian aid operations.
> > - Remain engaged diplomatically worldwide.
> > - Subsidize alternative energy research, including
> > space-based power systems, until it becomes practical for
> > private concerns to make money that way. As a side effect,
> > reinvigorate the US space program as a practical solution
> > to a number of Earthbound problems.
> > - Legalize all currently illegal drugs, and tax the f*ck
> > out of the suppliers. Use the money to improve education
> > nationally.
> > - Equal education opportunity for *all* based *solely* on
> > merit. Education through graduate school should be free
> > for anyone who can climb the learning curve.
> > - All government IT systems to be run on fully-auditable
> > systems based on fully open standards. That may mean
> > proprietary, non-free software in some cases, but it will
> > never mean closed source.
> > - If money saved by the previous point permits, establish
> > permanent colonies on the Moon and Mars :-)
> > 
> > </starry-eyed>
> > 
> > Yeah, laugh all you want...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > -- Joe
> > 
> > 
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