[ale] Capture "devices" ?

Tue Dec 3 09:08:47 EST 2002

What do you suggest in Firewire?  I don't need production quality right
now but I'd like something that'll look decent when I replay it in 2
years, or when the boys are old enough to be embarrased by it.

Thus spake cfowler (cfowler at outpostsentinel.com):

> Subject: Re: [ale] Capture "devices" ?
> From: cfowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> To: ale at ale.org
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) 
> Date: 03 Dec 2002 09:03:19 -0500
> 
> I think there are some capture devices that are Firewire based. that you
> can hook RCA into.  
> 
> I purchased a PCI card once and felt that it was useless due to the
> crappy nature of the captures.  I had to capture small to get high frame
> rates.  Then it look really bad on TV when I converted to VCD.
> 
> This device you are looking at, I believe is the USB Dazzle at $69.  I
> would look on ebay first and get a used one.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:58, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >   Doesn't a firewire capture device require a firewire camera, etc?
> > I've got a cam corder and web cam, both have RCA and Svideo outputs.  I
> > don't have the budget right now to go buy a camera also, just a card and
> > preferably a semi-cheap one ($100-$150 range).
> > 
> > 
> > Thus spake cfowler (cfowler at outpostsentinel.com):
> > 
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] Capture "devices" ?
> > > From: cfowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) 
> > > Date: 03 Dec 2002 08:49:05 -0500
> > > 
> > > Stop for a moment.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hopefully some people here have experience with this.  I'm in the
> > > process of using Firewire DV to do my capture.  I just ordered a cable
> > > to go from my DV Camera to PC and am not looking for software that runs
> > > in XP that does a *good* job of capture.
> > > 
> > > That usb device is a 1.0 device.  It will only do 30fps at a low
> > > resolution.  At higher resolutions you'll get far fewer FPS.  USB 1.0
> > > just does not have the bandwidht the keep up with the amount of data
> > > that comes from the VCR, TV, Camera, etc.
> > > 
> > > I want 720x480 @ 30fps resolution.  I will not settil for anything less
> > > and USB does not offer it.  Firewire is the way to go.  USB 2.0 may do
> > > it.
> > > The worst device would be USB then PCI Card, and finally IEEE 1394 DV. 
> > > So get the IEEE if possible.  If not look at a PCI card.  Stay away from
> > > the UWB device.  Maybe others have input but this it what I found.
> > > 
> > > I'm torn between Dazzle and Pinnacle software to do my capturing.  I'm
> > > not looking for fancy stuff I just want good quality captures to go to
> > > VCD and DCD.
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:34, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   I'm looking to pickup a capture card/device on the way home today.
> > > > While scouting CompUSA for parts the other day I found a cute little USB
> > > > booger that looked like just wires going to a usb port, no "card" which
> > > > would work very well for me as my USB ports are on the front and
> > > > plugging in different cams, webcams, etc will be a real pain on my
> > > > system right now.
> > > > 
> > > >   It lists Win98 compatable but I'm running 2k/Debian Unstable on my
> > > > desktop.  Has anyone seen this thing?
> > > > (http://www.startech.com/ststore/searchframe.asp?product_desc=capture&Description=Search+Results&Topbar=true)
> > > > 
> > > >   Any other suggestions that are relatively cheap?  I'd like to convert
> > > > home movies of the kidlets to mpeg that I can send to the grandparrents
> > > > as well as run a web cam off it.
> > > > 
> > > > Robert
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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DISCLAIMER:
      These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.
FYI:
 perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'

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