[ale] guess I am screwed, eh?

miguel miguelq at bellsouth.net
Sat Aug 24 21:53:02 EDT 2002


very true....i have seen the bean counters climb the corporate/company 
ladder much faster than the techy -guru who actually turn an idea into a 
reality/product

-miguel

James P. Kinney III wrote:

>Well, ANY degree is better than NO degree. It demonstrates that the
>degree holder has the ability to stay on task through completion.
>
>Unless you do as I did and _finally_ graduate in the field that was your
>7th major pursuit (Missed graduation by just a few credit hours in 2
>fields {nerd}).
>
>Sure, take business classes. Especially if you want to "go to the dark
>side". Many technical people take a few business classes just so they
>can learn the lingo. It's not like the math is hard. By having the
>terminology to use on the job, it makes it much easier to talk
>coherently to the bean counter. Like it or not, the bean counters make
>the decisions now. A top-notch engineer or scientist will not "climb the
>ladder" like a mediocre one with "management skills" or better, an MBA.
>
>It wasn't that long ago that the joke "What do call an MBA in Atlanta?
>Waiter!" was very relevant. 
>
>On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 20:44, Cade Thacker wrote:
>
>>Considering that I am one week into my BS of CS at Georgia Tech, I guess I
>>am screwed because of this article. Why oh why did they not published this
>>thing a week earlier. ;)
>>
>>http://newsfactor.com/perl/story/19136.html
>>
>>Is the CS degree(any reputable college) still relevant for the masses? We
>>will always need people to create compilers and OS stuff, but how many do
>>we need? You don't really need a CS degree to be a medioce(sp?) Java
>>programmer(just look at some of my co-workers ;). In thinking about this,
>>is it kinda like lawyers? We always say we have too many lawyers, but
>>schools are still pumping them out en mass.
>>
>>Would this topic be different if we live someplace else like New Enland or
>>Silicon Valley?
>>
>>Well damn the torpedos, I am going for it anyway ;)
>>
>><snip from article>
>>"Pretty soon, we'll start to see CIOs having fewer techies on staff," he
>>said. "The rest will be business analysts, project managers -- those kinds
>>of people."
>>
>>Programs To Pursue
>>
>>As a result of these and other IT changes, high-tech workers may want to
>>take a few business and management courses to supplement their
>>technological acumen, according to analysts. One educational path that
>>could be rocky is the tried-and-true B.S. in computer science. As Craig
>>Symons, vice president of IT management at Giga Information Group, told
>>NewsFactor:  "A bachelor's degree in computer science would be overkill
>>for most people. Computer science is now really a major for those who want
>>to go into computer hardware or software engineering."
>>
>>Symons added that people who are interested in creating applications would
>>be better off in either a certification program or a business program with
>>a focus on information systems.
>>
>></snip>
>>
>>
>>sigh...
>>
>>--cade
>>
>>On Linux vs Windows
>>==================
>>Remember, amateurs built the Ark, Professionals built the Titanic!
>>==================
>>
>>
>>
>>
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