[ale] Jobs?

[Chris Fowler]

When I 
first got into this field in 95.  I accepted 19K a year.  But, it was 
much better than unloading trucks at RPS during ATL hot 
summers.
<SPAN 
class=142092417-18062001>Â 
<SPAN 
class=142092417-18062001>Â 

  <FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bao C. Ha 
  [mailto:baoha at sensoria.com]Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:28 
  PMTo: ale at ale.orgSubject: RE: [ale] 
  Jobs?
  How 
  cheap is cheap?
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>Â 
  Two 
  years ago, a good Unix admin can get 70-80K easily.  Now, 
  they
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>won't even talk if you don't have a college 
  degree.
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>Â 
  The 
  dot com bust actually demonstrates how valuable it is to have 
  a
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>college degree, or a formal education in computer 
  science.
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>Â 
  I 
  don't have specific recommendations.  There are, however, a lot 
  of
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>Linux developers are joining "real" companies now a 
  day.  They will
  be 
  in the positions to hire.  The ways to make yourself known is 
  to
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>participate in informal channels like ALE.  You 
  could also pick up
  a 
  package to develop, to maintain, or even to debug.  Send 
  craps
  of 
  good bug reports will also make yourself visible on many 
  people's
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>radars.  I did some fun work for Linux as a 
  hobby in the early 90's.
  I am 
  reaping its pay-off now.
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>Â 
  <SPAN 
  class=808091517-18062001>Bao
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
    <FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: owner-ale at ale.org 
    [mailto:owner-ale at ale.org]On Behalf Of Chris FowlerSent: 
    Monday, June 18, 2001 10:14 AMTo: 'Casey Allen Shobe'; 
    ale at ale.orgSubject: RE: [ale] Jobs?
    <SPAN 
    class=839120217-18062001>Offer your services cheap.
    
      <FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Casey Allen Shobe 
      [mailto:cshobe at softhome.net]Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:10 
      PMTo: ale at ale.orgSubject: [ale] 
      Jobs?
      I've been looking for a new job in the *nix 
      field for about a month and a half now...unfortunately, I have no college 
      degree whatsoever nor previous job experience in a related field, so 
      literally *none* of my emails have ever been even so much as 
      answered.
      Â 
      I wondered if anybody else has been in this 
      situation, and if so, how you got started?  Any good places to look 
      for entry level positions in, say, a PHP programming field?
      Â 
      Advice muchly appreciated!
      Â 
      - Casey Allen 
  Shobe