[ale] [Fwd: Re: [ale] XP and Samba]

[Jimmie Fulton]

What James stated is true.  Further, Windows 2000 / Windows XP actually have
the option to turn off NetBIOS; none of Microsoft's previous operating
systems have this feature and networking would not work without NetBIOS.  In
setting up a Windows 2000 domain and clients, it is possible to go into
"Native Mode" in which NetBIOS is disabled and not used throughout the
network.  The option to use NetBIOS is only there to provide backward
compatibility with previous MS OSs.  From what I can tell, the only way this
will work for W2K network is if all machines are participating in Active
directory and using dynamic updates to Microsoft's DNS server.  Otherwise,
the machines cannot find each other.  They must have some way to find each
other... NetBIOS or Windows version of DNS.  Samba DOES need NetBIOS over
TCP/IP running on the Windows machine to mount Windows shares, at least in
the recent version I'm using.  I verified this by connecting with a W2K
machine which had NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled (the two machines are on
different networks).  I then disabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP and tried to mount
it again.  SMB connection failed.  Re-enabled and it works fine.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric at denali.atlnet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:13 AM
> To: ALE
> Subject: [ale] [Fwd: Re: [ale] XP and Samba]
> 
> 
> James Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > Whenever you install TCP/IP, even if you install *only* TCP/IP on
> > Win9x,NTor W2K, NetBIOS is automatically installed, though 
> not displayed
> > in the pprotocol window.  I've heard that if you go in and 
> change the
> > FG/BG in video memory below the last item in the protocol 
> window, the
> > entry will show.
> 
> Actually, it is generally installed by default on win95 and it is
> displayed, which always pissed me off, I then remove it.  Win95 also
> installs the netware stuff,
> which I remove as well. No sense in adding additional protocols that
> won't be used, and might be cracked somehow.
> 
> I don't know about NT or Win2K as I've not installed NT in a while. 
> I've just done an upgrade to Win2K from NT, but the NetB* stuff is not
> there as far as I can tell.  Regardless whether it's displayed or not,
> it's not necessary for Samba.
> 
> > 
> > Apparently XP doesn't do this, hence you have to install NetBIOS
> > Nameservice separately.  I wouldn't think you would need NetBEUI
> > Protocol, though.
> 
> Can't speak for XP as I'll NEVER run it. I guarantee you NetB* are not
> needed by Samba.
> 
> 
> --
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at denali.atlnet.com
> 
> "...the system (Microsoft passport) carries significant risks to users
> that
> are not made adequately clear in the technical documentation 
> available."
> - David P. Kormann and Aviel D. Rubin, AT&T Labs - Research
> - http://www.avirubin.com/passport.html
> 
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