No he didn't. It was the tail of the ISDN discussion. Michael Ivey, Linux System Administration | Send mail with Subject: ivey at gsu.edu http://gstv.gsu.edu/~ivey | GET LIST for my pgp block, Yet Another Perl Hacker | geek code block, etc. Key to UNIX: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'