[ale] Unstable Unstable Un%@#&stable

Andy dread at atlcom.net
Wed Jun 19 09:28:00 EDT 1996


Charles W. Binko wrote:
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> - -> ok guys here we go.  After finally getting the PPP to work, (real happy)
> - -> I decided to get Netscape 2.02. Well now I have more fixing to do.
> - -> Seems like I spend more time fixing something than using it. :(  When I
> - -> run nescape for anywhere between 5 minutes to 1 hour It hangs and takes
> - -> the whole system with it (or the X-Server anyway.) I get a
> - ->  Kernel Panic
> - ->  swapper: not syncing
> - ->  Stack overflow.
> - ->
> ...
> 
> Well, I'm no expert, but it definitely looks like you're running out of
> memory! Netscape is an unbelievable memory-hog, and yes, it does tend to go
> nuts occasionally (I'm running 3.0 beta, and it does it too :(  ), but the
> problem is probably fixable.
> 
> First, make sure you have your swap turned on.  I know, you _know_ better than
> that!  So did I and I ran for 4 weeks without it :)  To make sure, just run
> 'free' and it should look like (with netscape, emacs and exmh running :):
> 
>             total       used       free     shared    buffers
> Mem:         15152      14892        260       6296       3548
> - -/+ buffers:            11344       3808
> Swap:        14956       8340       6616
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> If swap is 0, make sure the you're running swapon in your rc.d scripts.
> 
> ...
> - -> Also is there a way to make X-windows a little more fault tolerant. ie
> - -> when a program crashes than not take the server with it like Microsoft
> - -> Windows 3.1 does. I hate to say it but 95 doesn't crash when a program
> - -> crashes. There must be something I am not doing correctly why the server
> - -> crashes with the app.
> 
> The main reason for X to just die is to run out of swap/memory!  I've run my
> machine for weeks (using PPP/Netscape and all sorts of crud) without rebooting
> (and that's usually to play Duke Nukem :) and have only had one or two times
> where X died.
> 
> So!  Bump up your swap!  (and buy memory :)
> 
> I'll bet good money that's your problem.
> 
> Good Luck,
> Bill
 
I currently have 24 MB ram and 60 MB swap partition. Netsrape is the only
thing I am running when this happens. KernELF 1.2.13, I did double check, and my
swap is enabled. running 1280x1024x256 (8bpp). But it still does it. 
Question, how much memory do I need to run NetsRape in X? 

			Thanx 
				Andy






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