[Ale-study] Virtualization?

Donald Norman donald at dwnorman.net
Wed Nov 17 08:05:19 EST 2010


Thanks John.  I'll look into kvm and get back to you.  I'm just looking to  
get experience.


donald

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:55:54 -0500, John <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:

> The answer is "it depends."  I'm happy to discuss the VM options with
> anyone on a call.  The best answer depends on your hardware, the clients
> to be installed, any host OS plans, how you plan to perform backups,
> stability needs, whether you have another PC to use for VM management,
> and a few other considerations.
>
> Below it says, "
>
> Setting up a new VM server environment
> today on Linux for Linux VMs, I'd use KVM.
>
> "
> That is my best advice, lacking any additional information.
>
>
> On 11/16/2010 10:43 PM, Donald Norman wrote:
>> John,
>> Do you have a suggestion as to which virtualization system I should
>> consider?  Also, how much RAM per VM do I reasonably need to have?   I
>> will likely begin with CentOS as a host as it is server centric, unless
>> you think otherwise.
>>
>> Donald
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:51:20 -0500, John<jdp at algoloma.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Which virtualization tech will everyone be using?
>>>
>>> Knowing which host OS you will use will help with December's ALE-NW
>>> meeting.  I'm planning to demonstrate setting up VirtualBox on both
>>> Windows and Ubuntu OSes, but the host OS that most of you here use will
>>> get more coverage.
>>>
>>> VirtualBox isn't solid enough for servers, IMHO, but it is the easiest
>>> to deploy on Windows. On my hardware, virtualbox running on Ubuntu
>>> locked up multiple times after 4-6 days of a client running WinXP. Not
>>> just the client-VM - the entire physical server - I had to press the
>>> BRS. Unacceptable.
>>> I have Xen VMs that run for months and months without issue, but Xen
>>> isn't directly supported by current Ubuntu or Redhat releases, so I
>>> wouldn't deploy that today. The Xen VMs are all 8.04 LTS Ubuntu which
>>> has a few more years of support. Stability of a host is critical to me.
>>>
>>> http://blog.jdpfu.com/2009/12/22/virtualization-survey-an-overview has
>>> more of my thoughts on the different virtualization options suitable  
>>> for
>>> servers. It is about a year old. Setting up a new VM server environment
>>> today on Linux for Linux VMs, I'd use KVM.  Desktop virtualization is
>>> different. If I had a budget for VM tools, my answer may be different,
>>> especially, if I needed to run Windows.
>>>
>>> VirtualBox was discussed on the FLOSS Weekly podcast
>>> http://blog.jdpfu.com/2010/08/16/virtualbox-on-floss-weekly in August,
>>> which may be useful to some.
>>>
>>> Please reply on-list with your virtualization plans.
>>> Would talking about this on a conference call Wed night 7:30p be  
>>> useful?
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