[mirror-admin] fullfilelist (was Re: Please use --delay-updates)

Angel Marin anmar at anmar.eu.org
Tue Apr 20 14:26:53 EDT 2010


On 20/04/10 17:45, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
> Mike McGrath (mmcgrath at redhat.com) wrote on 20 April 2010 09:48:
>  >On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
>  >
>  >> Chuck Anderson (cra at wpi.edu) wrote on 16 April 2010 08:41:
>  >>  >Each time you run rsync against your upstream mirror, it scans the
>  >>  >entire filesystem to build a filelist.  This could take anywhere from
>  >>  >5 to 20 minutes or more
>  >>
>  >> More... :-(
>  >>
>  >>  >and has been a factor in overloading the master mirrors in the past.
>  >>
>  >> I'd say nowadays too... The table below shows the time we take just to
>  >> get the file list from sync.fedoraproject, for the last days. We
>  >> mirror everything starting from release 11. It shows clearly that the
>  >> machine suffers significantly from disk scanning. The file list is
>  >> only about 22MB. Times are in UTC-3.
>  >>
>  >> If fullfilelist was done properly we could completely avoid this
>  >> scanning...
>  >>
>  >
>  >Can you expand more on this, how can we do fullfilelist properly?
> 
> Including timestamp and size (and type of object).
> 
> The current version only gives the names. Downstream mirrors can use it
> to see what has been removed and created but cannot know what has been
> modified. They're thus forced to request a full disk scan. If you put
> the necessary info in fullfilelist mirrors can rsync it, see
> *everything* that must be updated and directly request only what's
> necessary with rsync --files-from. This way no disk scanning would be
> necessary upstream.
> 
> The format I propose is the one generated by rsync itself:
> 
> % cd /path/to/repository
> % rsync -r . > /path/to/fullfilelist

Wouldn't make sense to generate that list forcing the timezone on that
rsync run to for example utc?

Otherwise the reported date would be dependent on a particular server
configuration that might change in the future, messing parsers ...

> If you want fullfilelist to include itself it's of course necessary to
> adjust it afterwards but that's easy. Note also that "self-inclusion"
> is not necessary because mirrors would pull it always.
> 
> It's possible to maintain this list without scanning the repo; it can
> be done by the procedure that updates the master. However even if it's
> done by scanning, its cost will be compensated by the scans that the
> mirrors will not inflict on the master. Even if it's only
> fedora.c3sl.ufpr.br that avoids it :-)

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