<div dir="auto"><div>No problem.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have 18+/- 2TB 3.5" Dell SAS 6G bps drive, a Dell drive array and sleds with sas2sata interposers. Array supports both. Cables and a pci card come with it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You haul. My knee hurts.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">-- <br>James P. Kinney III<br><i><i><i><i><br></i></i></i></i>Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br><i><i><i><i><br><a href="http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/</a><br></i></i></i></i></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 4, 2026, 2:30 AM Alex Carver via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm not in Georgia to take them and I really am looking for TB-sized <br>
disks so I will say thanks but I am declining the offer.<br>
<br>
On 2026-02-03 05:33, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:<br>
> Alex,<br>
> <br>
> When Jim offers hardware, he offers it. I recived a lot from him. Still <br>
> grateful for the haul. I just saying.<br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 7:58 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ale@ale.org</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ale@ale.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Manufacturers don't refurbish hard drives. It doesn't happen. Third<br>
> parties "refurbish" by wiping and resetting drive firmware.<br>
> Manufacture warranties are void.<br>
> <br>
> I was not clear in my offer. I'm not asking for money. I just want<br>
> this hardware hauled away by someone who wants it. I lack time and<br>
> interest to be involved. So, Alex, if you want this stuff, let me<br>
> know. Once Alex decides, I'll toss the rest on the group for another<br>
> rehoming event. I want to unload the entire space formerly used as<br>
> my test gear server closet. I have several thousand systems at work<br>
> to wrestle with and I no longer experiment at home with new<br>
> technologies. At the end of the day, I make tiny, wearable<br>
> sculptures from silver and occasionally gold or platinum, semi and<br>
> precious stones, and fused glass. I'm done making invisible things<br>
> that 99.9% of humans don't understand.<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> James P. Kinney III<br>
> ////<br>
> ////Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.<br>
> What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a<br>
> dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br>
> ////<br>
> <a href="http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/</a> <http://<br>
> <a href="http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">heretothereideas.blogspot.com/</a>><br>
> ////<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2026, 11:54 PM Alex Carver via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ale@ale.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ale@ale.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I'm no stranger to drive failures but I'm also not exactly flush<br>
> with<br>
> cash enough to buy a dozen drives at over $300 each. Recall I<br>
> wasn't<br>
> asking about used drives, I asked about manufacturer refurbished<br>
> which<br>
> is a bit different.<br>
> <br>
> This is going in a NAS already, redundancy is part of the<br>
> process but<br>
> there's other backups, too.<br>
> <br>
> On 2026-02-02 10:20, Bob Toxen wrote:<br>
> > It's been my experience that high quality disks, such as the<br>
> Western<br>
> > Digital Caviar series, will last 5 years and should be<br>
> replaced at<br>
> > that time!!! I find most other brands to be suboptimal,<br>
> e.g., expect<br>
> > a head crash and catastrophic loss of all data. The Caviar<br>
> Black disks<br>
> > spin at 7200 RPM and carry a 5 year warranty!<br>
> ><br>
> > I've had poor luck with Seagate. YMMV.<br>
> ><br>
> > I realize that a RAID array is redundant but is it worth<br>
> being cheap to<br>
> > hopefully replace every failed disk before another one also<br>
> fails?<br>
> ><br>
> > Understand that the MTBF is less than that for one disk<br>
> increased by<br>
> > being able to continue until two disks fail. This is<br>
> because, assuming<br>
> > all disks of the same type and time in service are more<br>
> likely to fail<br>
> > around the same time, same as incandescent light bulbs.<br>
> ><br>
> > I suggest, if you use refurbished disks, pick a RAID mode,<br>
> such as RAID6,<br>
> > with double redundancy due to two different parities that can<br>
> withstand<br>
> > two disk failures in the array.<br>
> ><br>
> > Wikipedia's "RAID" entry is excellent.<br>
> ><br>
> > If the cost isn't out of your pocket buy new WD Black!<br>
> ><br>
> > Bob<br>
> ><br>
> > [Bob's political comment suppressed by Bob]<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 06:25:39PM -0800, Alex Carver via Ale<br>
> wrote:<br>
> >> Anyone have recommendations for an online place to buy<br>
> refurbished HDDs (not<br>
> >> SSDs)? I want to add a few more drives to the NAS.<br>
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