<div dir="ltr">And that was my point.  Why is anything concerning the software you choose to use or contribute to politicized in any way?   That's just stupid.   If someone doesn't like systemd (and there's many here that don't) why are they undesirables, politically or otherwise?   Everybody has their own preference, and those preferences have absolutely nothing to do with "red/blue" bullshit.   I don't think ideology should be extrapolated or be the basis for what software one prefers.   That's just looney-tunez.  That's all I have to say about it.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 3:48 PM Chuck Payne via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">James, <div><br></div><div>X.org forked to become Xlibre and they are patching a ton of bugs. X is still a thing and many of the main distros are blocking any one that talks about Xlibre or brings up to use it. <br><br>Guys, I am glad you are finally seeing this, it's why more or less I am not promoting a lot of open source or helping out. It's so political it's not funny.   </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 2:29 PM James Taylor via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>

<div><u></u><div style="overflow:auto"><div id="m_3808456901503762814m_288670421372049007GroupWiseSection_1764617291231_2662578004B90000ADD6730071006F00_"><div> Since when is anything on X relevant?</div><span id="m_3808456901503762814m_288670421372049007GWSignaturePlaceholder" style="display:block"><div id="m_3808456901503762814m_288670421372049007GWSignatureSent" style="display:block">  James Taylor<br>678-697-9420<br><a href="mailto:james.taylor@eastcobbgroup.com" target="_blank">james.taylor@eastcobbgroup.com</a></div></span></div><div id="m_3808456901503762814m_288670421372049007GroupWiseSection_1764617291204_2662578004B90000ADD6730071006F00_"><span><br>>>> William Wylde via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> 12/01/2025, 12:43 PM >>><br></span><div dir="ltr"><div>Apparently, X11 is fascist now.   So is SystemV.   Forks are fascist?   What a bunch of bullshit.   This is absolutely NOT what "open source" is about.   I thought open-source was "do your thing", not "do my thing".   If anybody wanted "do my thing", why wouldn't you just work for Micro$loth?  </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=x.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly94LmNvbS9pL3N0YXR1cy8xOTk1NTQ1MjYyNzIzMzA5OTgz&i=NjNjODRjNjNlNGJiYjI0YTFlODE3NGI4&t=UndlTDBaUTl5cVVhTGo2L3NXdVVnYks4bitXS0JXaFRYclZtUjRLYThldz0=&h=d1747b6e67dd4c5fb16881ee43f6de13&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYdBQ9j-wR-KkxEPPIPFbQnjFT3tdStWDhWBd8Fyu51Wg" target="_blank">https://x.com/i/status/1995545262723309983</a></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">--<br><span>“Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great.”  </span><span>― Mark Twain</span><div><a href="https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=biblegateway.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmlibGVnYXRld2F5LmNvbS9wYXNzYWdlLz9zZWFyY2g9UGhpbGlwcGlhbnMlMjA0JTNBMTMmdmVyc2lvbj1OS0pW&i=NjNjODRjNjNlNGJiYjI0YTFlODE3NGI4&t=RmZRRzV2ZG5ZazdLdnpiU3ZpRUJ2dnJ6Wit5cWFHc25GbzhnNVRSVjYvVT0=&h=d1747b6e67dd4c5fb16881ee43f6de13&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYdBQ9j-wR-KkxEPPIPFbQnjFT3tdStWDhWBd8Fyu51Wg" target="_blank">Philippians 4:13</a></div><strong>I</strong> <strong>can</strong> <strong>do</strong> <strong>all</strong> <strong>things</strong> <strong>through</strong> <strong>Christ</strong> <strong>who</strong> <strong>strengthens</strong> <strong>me</strong>.<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">--<br><span>“Keep
 away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people 
always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can 
become great.”  </span><span>― Mark Twain</span><div><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians%204%3A13&version=NKJV" target="_blank">Philippians 4:13</a></div>

<b>I</b> <b>can</b> <b>do</b> <b>all</b> <b>things</b> <b>through</b> <b>Christ</b> <b>who</b> <b>strengthens</b> <b>me</b>.<br><br></div></div>