<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 8:27 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>yeah, there are flavors that retain the non EUFI. But setting up a brand-new (well brand-new drives on a vintage chassis) server, I didn't want to get into the scenario where 2 years down the road an upgrade makes it not boot. </p>
<p>A friend had a couple of HP Elite desktops that fit the bill just fine. We're up and running RAID1 on Ubunto 24. </p>
<p id="m_7831290621294309118reply-intro">On 2025-10-11 15:53, William Wylde via Ale wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Kali will too. Which means that Debian will. I think Slackware will too. You still have to turn off "secure boot", though.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 2:08 PM Boris Borisov via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">My Dell is pre UEFI and just boots from probably 2005 and boots without problem with UEFI usb drive.
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<div dir="auto">In truths I`m using Antix Linux which is hybrid type iso image and can boot UEFI or non UEFI ways.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I also have cheap Intel Z CPU based tablet with win10 which requires UEFI.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The weird part is tablet boots from 32 bit UEFI loader and then continues with 64 bit live OS.</div>
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<div dir="auto">But choice between UEFi or "normal" way is BIOS selectable. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 13:26 Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p>Thank you Microsoft, for updating Windows 10 so it absolutely will not connect to Samba on our Centos 6 RAID 1 server. (Stuck on Centos 6 due to no in-place upgrade) </p>
<p>So, we gotta stand up a new server. </p>
<p>I have a Dell Optiplex 740; I was gonna just buy a pair of new 2TB drives and install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS on it. </p>
<p>After much beating of my head against its non EUFI-ness, I have determined I can get it to boot from a Rufus-built 22.04 USB. </p>
<p>I cannot get it to boot from either a 24.04 CD+RW, or a 24.04 USB. </p>
<p>So, the lack of EUFI on the Optiplex 740 I could ignore. </p>
<p>BUT, aren't there a bajillion OptiPlex 3040, 3050, 5040, 5050 (2015-2017) desktops going to the dump due to windows 11? </p>
<p>Wouldn't it be smarter to find one of those and not have the EUFI limitation, and start off with Ubuntu 24.04 LTS? I'll probably be dead, or brain-dead by the time we run out of updates. </p>
<p>Where might one find some of those? Or equivalent? Preferably in-town? </p>
<p>regards, </p>
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<p>Neal </p>
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