<div dir="ltr">Too bad. I guess after I build my local AI machine I will have to build a PI setup. Seems to be going places.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 9:13 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p><a href="https://github.com/kdoren/jambox-pi-gen" target="_blank">GitHub - kdoren/jambox-pi-gen: Start jamming online easily with a Raspberry Pi, an audio interface, and this free Jambox image file. Just download/burn/boot/jam. Choose from multiple jamming apps: Jamulus, SonoBus, JackTrip, JamTaba, JammerNetz or HpsJam. User interface is any web browser on same local network. Pre-built image file is available under "Releases".</a> </p>
<p>Yes, Pi 4. Lesser Pi really doesn't have the oomph. </p>
<p>Good news is you just burn the microSD image, stick it in, slap a USB sound interface or HiFiBerry HAT card, and voila. </p>
<p>And it does have Sonobus if you want to play with that too. </p>
<p>William: Yes, this is a complete turnkey microSD image tweaked for PI. </p>
<p>You could install Jamulus on a normal Debian system, but I suspect it would suck. Latency getting in and out of the audio section would likely be too high. </p>
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<div dir="auto">Seems to be usb image designed specifically for raspberry pi. With all necessary client server apps. I may have to get me raspi 3 or 4.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Expand on this "Jambox". Info? "HOWTO"s? Is it available for Debian 12+ in the repository, or the snap repository, or will it have to be installed from source or an outside package? </div>
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<p>So, you have some latency within the desktop sound pathway. </p>
<p>I'm thinking that Sonobus on Jambox uses Jack as transport "out of the box". </p>
<p>I will also note that a PI using Jambox can be configured to "just work". Meaning I can give one to a non-technical person, and just say "plug this in at 7pm". And it comes up and auto-connects. </p>
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<div dir="ltr">For now I just installed the Sonobus client on my Desktop linux which is pretty old PC by nowadays. Is fun to listen to other people jamming. But I have problem with sound like the sound buffer cannot be filled up fast enough. I'm using ALSA for now perhaps Jack would have better results. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 8:58 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p>ooooh. OOOOOH. Might have been me. </p>
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<p>My bluegrass gospel type group used the Jambox boot on a PI4 with HiFiBerry HAT cards for ... near simultaneous audio within the Lilburn area. Back in the pandemic. </p>
<p>The HAT card gets you minimal latency inside the PI box. </p>
<p>Jambox runs Jamulus, which at the time needed a Jamulus server which we placed at church on a Comcast business internet. The Jamulus server we stood up on a Dell optiplex running Ubuntu. Modestly straightforward to setup. There are also some local public Jamulus servers you could play with initially. </p>
<p>It worked .... pretty well. some of us were on AT&T, some were on Comcast, and my understanding is that those two providers connect to each other in Marietta, so maybe 20ms of latency between the two. </p>
<p>So, kinda depends on the music. And the latency between each. I wouldn't put rhythm instruments in two separate homes; 20ms of latency just doesn't work. </p>
<p>It does require CAT5 connection to your internet router; WIFI latency is bleah. </p>
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<p>We initially tried JackTrip, and found Jamulus was easier. </p>
<p>getting the Jambox ISO, and burning to a microSD and booting up was fairly straightforward. </p>
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<p>For our Oktoberfest we used the same Jambox, which includes Sonobus to run Sonobus from the stage in the tent in the back field to the Nurse/First Aid station in the church building over WIFI. Worked great; Sonobus connections will recognize lost packets and just delay the playback so that there are no dropouts. Of course that is a one-way street. </p>
<p>We've also swapped out the HiFiBerry HAT cards for some cheap USB dongles. </p>
<p>As you can tell, I could talk about that for a long long time. </p>
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<div dir="auto">Someone posted here information about software that allows musicians to play together from home as they are together in same studio.
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<div dir="auto">If I recall was done with rasPI or I can be totally off.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Do you recall that.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I found one open source project called <a href="http://sonobus.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sonobus.net</a> with clients for many platforms. </div>
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