<div dir="auto"><div>What's the battle cry of the hoarder?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That has value and it's mine!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><facepalm/></div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">-- <br>James P. Kinney III<br><i><i><i><i><br></i></i></i></i>Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br><i><i><i><i><br><a href="http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/</a><br></i></i></i></i></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 9, 2025, 8:18 PM Jeff Lightner via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Q: What is the mating cry of the pack rat?<br>
A: I might need that some day!<br>
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Subject: Re: [ale] A modest proposal for the times<br>
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> > 16TB on one computer is very difficult.<br>
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Actually I thought I was more than strange carrying around 4TB on my laptop, since laptops can be stolen,lost, etc.<br>
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I just got used to storing that much data on my laptop because I would travel to places were Internet connectivity was only a dream. Of course having the data backed up removes a lot of "stolen/lost laptop angst".<br>
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Today I still do it because I am too lazy to separate out data that I need a lot vs data that I want to have immediately once every ten years.<br>
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md<br>
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> On 04/09/2025 7:02 PM EDT Solomon Peachy via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 06:39:27PM -0400, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:<br>
> > The other thing is that most motherboards I've seen can house a <br>
> > maximum of 2 NVMes, and if you use both something or other gets <br>
> > degraded. So 16TB on one computer is very difficult.<br>
> <br>
> NVMe slots are effectively just PCIe in a very small form-factor; if <br>
> your motherboard has any spare PCIe slots you can use cheap passive<br>
> PCIe->NVMe adapters until you run out of slots.<br>
> <br>
> There are also PCIe adapters that can hold 2+ NVMe drives, but they <br>
> may require motherboard/chipset support to function properly (the <br>
> cheap ones rely on PCIe bifrucation and the fancier ones use an active <br>
> PCIe<br>
> switch/router)<br>
> <br>
> Another option is to use SATA-attached SSDs; they're going to be <br>
> slower (and cheaper) than NVMe but still vastly faster than spinning <br>
> rust. A quick perusal of Newegg shows you can get 4TB drives for under <br>
> $170, which is still over 2x the cost of spinning rust at the 16TB mark.<br>
> <br>
> ANYWay...<br>
> <br>
> - Solomon<br>
> -- <br>
> Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org (email&xmpp)<br>
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> Dowling Park, FL speachy (libera.chat)<br>
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