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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Yes autoexec.bat – that was a typo (dropped letter).<br><br>He DID look at autexec.bat but as I planned he missed that it was doing c1s instead of cls (i.e. “c” ONE “s” instead of “c” EL “s”. Since cls (clear screen built in) was in most autoexec.bat files (and many other batch files) of the day I’d not have given anyone grief for missing it. Since there was no “cls.exe” it was understandable he missed the “c1s.bat” being in the directory.<br><br>To this day I rarely use the numerals 1 or 0 or the lower case l or upper case O in passwords because many fonts often make them indistinguishable (or at least hard to distinguish) from one another. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br>This reminds me of the time I had a major issue with Veritas NetBackup. I’d bounced the server and clients and the master NetBackup processes wouldn’t start. Since I’d made no changes I couldn’t understand why. On calling Veritas support they couldn’t either and I spent 24 hours with their follow the sun support and multiple of their senior engineers across the globe with no resolution. To their credit they all counseled against doing a NetBackup catalog restore. I and they had looked at many different files and filesystems that existed on the master finding no relevant configuration files that should have caused this issue. They had exhausted all possibilities and agreed the only thing left to try was the catalog restore. They put me on hold while they discussed that internally. While on hold doing my umpteenth examination of the files and filesystems I finally noticed one small file had a date stamp AFTER the last time the master had been booted but before the one I’d done that night. <br><br>My co-worker had (as I taught him) saved a date stamped backup copy of the file. Diff confirmed its contents varied slightly with the newer file. When Veritas support came back off hold I told them what I’d found. They couldn’t find any documentation as to what this config file was. I saved the modified version and put the original back in place then restarted the master processes and they came up (mostly – I still had a lot of work to get done before it was fully functional). Veritas not knowing what the file’s purpose or proper contents was disturbing.<br><br>Even worse was the co-worker who’d modified the file on return from vacation admitted he’d been “tinkering” with that file but didn’t recall what had led him to modify it. <br><br>A major aggravation I often had was when other system administrators would make changes that affected boot processes without actually planning a boot test. This particular change was even more insidious.<br><br>No matter how advance a user or admin you think you are ALWAYS save a copy of any config file you are modifying ESPECIALLY if it affect boot or startup of an application.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Ale <ale-bounces@ale.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles Shapiro via Ale<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 10, 2024 12:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale@ale.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Godaddy Suxs!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Very cute, but surely you meant "autoexec.bat". And what kind of MS-DOS n00b wouldn't have looked there firstest?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- CHS<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 1:07<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Jeff Lightner via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>BOFH is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read.<br><br>I've never gone to his extremes. <br><br>However, for years since finger read and displayed .plan files in UNIX/Linux my .plan contained:<br>"World Domination!<br>Now that you know I have to kill you.<br>Adding user to hitlist.txt..."<br><br>Back in my DOS days I had a co-worker named Barry who said there was nothing I could do on a PC that he couldn't. <br>Accordingly I wrote a file called "c1s.bat" which simply set his PROMPT to "Barry can't find me.>" I then updated his <a href="http://autoexec.at" target="_blank">autoexec.at</a> to run c1s instead of the usual clear screen command, cls, found in most autoexec.bat files. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😈</span><br><br>On booting up he saw the prompt and couldn't figure out how to undo it. I finally relented, telling him how to fix it when he got the DOS installation disk planning to reinstall to default settings. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>💩</span><br><br>At another job someone (not me) had come up with script that would auto-invoke on login to UNIX. In the script it would show it had gone to the normal command prompt, pause for a second or so then say "Dialing into" giving the name of our largest, most important customer site. It would ask "Are you sure? Y/N". Regardless of what you hit would say "OK dialing in". It would then show a prompt as if you were dialed into that site. It would ask a series of questions such as "Are you sure you want to delete all files from the data filesystem?" and "Are you sure you want to remove the data filesystem?" along with various other critical filesystems. It would then ask "Are you sure you want to format the hard drive?" Finally it would ask if you were sure you wanted to shutdown. Of course every question resulted in it telling you it was proceeding as if you answered yes, regardless of what you actually entered. They put that script in the profile of every new person that started in support as a hazing thing. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😄</span><br><br>Supposedly, there was one new person who went through the entire thing without stopping to scream for help as was usual. They terminated that person for being dangerous to our operation. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😬</span><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ale <<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>> On Behalf Of Bob Toxen via Ale<br>Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2024 12:09 PM<br>To: Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>><br>Cc: Bob Toxen <<a href="mailto:Transam@verysecurelinux.com" target="_blank">Transam@verysecurelinux.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [ale] Godaddy Suxs!!!<br><br>On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 08:32:53PM -0500, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:<br>> Living with apathy has its advantages....<br>Yeah, but I don't care!<br><br>(Sorry, it had to be done.)<br><br>> On December 6, 2024 8:05:19 PM EST, DJPfulio--- via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br>> >On 12/6/24 19:14, Jeff Lightner via Ale wrote:<br>> >> Typically Registrars will send you notice of upcoming domain expirations.<br>> >> <br>> >> The problem with that AND calendar reminders is they usually are aimed at a<br>> >> single person. If that person is no longer with the company/organization<br>> >> OR that email has changed things might slip through the cracks. I <br>> >> often complained to registrars and certificate issuing authorities <br>> >> about their processes not recognizing having single contacts for notifications didn't<br>> >> work well for larger shops. (Of course we could try to use shared<br>> >> mailboxes but they often resisted that.)<br>> ><br>> >Email aliases are amazing things. You can have an alias that sends email to 1 or 500 people.<br>> ><br>> >OTOH, if you are dead, you probably don't care that a cert or domain registration didn't happen. I wouldn't.<br>> >_______________________________________________<br>> >Ale mailing list<br>> ><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br>> ><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>> >See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at <br>> ><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br>> ><br><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Ale mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br>> <a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at <br>> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>