<div dir="ltr">DJ Pfuliio, <br><br>When I worked at Starbase Atlanta Comic Store, there was a guy that came in who would give a lot of crap because I had a Macbook ( 68000K ), that I didn't know what a computer was, because he worked on a Cray / DEC Alpha, real computers. I was getting back into computers. I got the Macbook because Noriko needed a laptop for college. She was studying and teaching at Agnes Scott. In Japan, HyperText was a big thing there for teaching. <br><br>A few years later when I built my first PC, I wanted an Alpha because it could run a lot of OS, but no way hell I could afford something like that, the Cray sounded more like the Gibson from Hacker. <br><br>Now-a-days, I am just happy to use small board computers that more powerful than the towers I build from years ago. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:16 AM dj-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">A few years ago I looked up what my Ryzen 5600g performance was as compared to a Cray y-mp from the late '80s. They were about the same.<br><br>Or did I get that wrong?<br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On June 2, 2024 8:30:18 AM EDT, "Jon "maddog" Hall via Ale" <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">Brian,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When I spoke about "Cray" it was when it was "Cray Research" the child of Seymour, and "supercomputers" tended to be designed as monoliths.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That company went Bankrupt, was sold off to Silicon Graphics which went Bankrupt and was sold off to Hewlett Packard Enterprise. The new company is really "Cray" in name only other than they design HPC clusters.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">md</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, 07:49 Brian Stanaland via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> "Back in the day" when supercomputers like Cray, Control Data and others ruled the market their use of electricity was legendary. A Cray-1 was rumored to produce enough hot water to heat 10 homes in Toronto, Canada. The cost ors f a supercomputer was so high that very few agencies could afford one<br>
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Cray has come a long way since then. As have supercomputers in<br>
general. Still use gobs of power but at least that gets measured and<br>
ranked now. Seven of the top ten green systems are Cray. They're not<br>
slow, either. The lowest rank on the regular top 500 is 128 (2nd on<br>
the green list) while the number 11 fastest is the 8th greenest. (And<br>
I admit that I'm a little biased since I work on them.)<br>
<a href="https://www.top500.org/lists/green500/2024/06/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.top500.org/lists/green500/2024/06/</a><br>
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Brian<br>
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