<div dir="ltr">Yes, I think that pain drives change. High-profile attacks on important computer systems are making more people understand that complex dependency chains that nobody can audit is highly problematic. (A real audit is often possible but impractical because of system complexity.)<div><br></div><div>There certainly appears to be a window of opportunity starting to appear for a charismatic leader or movement to introduce an alternative that is transparent and simple enough to audit. I don't know whether anything will take advantage of that opportunity. The pain would have to be great enough to spur people to abandon current behavior, and the solution would have to be attractive enough.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:18 PM Steve Litt via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Leam Hall via Ale said on Tue, 27 Feb 2024 13:54:21 -0600<br>
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>While I personally like it, a lot of sysadmin jobs are going away.<br>
>It's easy to click a few buttons and spin up a new cloud instance. Why<br>
>trouble-shoot something when you can just destroy it and start over?<br>
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I see your point. Why waste time. The only thing is, what if you spin<br>
up your new cloud instance and get the same symptom? Nowww you have to<br>
troubleshoot, so the question is, in this situation where you must<br>
troubleshoot, what do you think of system transparency (a system or<br>
subsystem with accessible test points and adjustments AND the ability<br>
to see its sub components and how they connect to each other)?<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"> Ed Cashin <<a href="mailto:ecashin@noserose.net" target="_blank">ecashin@noserose.net</a>></div></div>