<div dir="ltr">I am still around. Thankful for the servers that I have gotten from you guys, though I am now moving more towards Small Board Computers, I up to I got 25 of those up and running, less heat. Having fun getting libvirtd working on them and running more virts. The Rockchip RK3588 so SWWWWWEEEETTTTT, man SBC have come a long way, I am sad to say that unless Raspberry comes out with something to match it, I am sticking with the Raxdax, Orange PI 5 and Indedroid, 8 K playback and emmc so nice. <br><br>In fact I won't buy any refurb Dell anymore, the power I am saving with the SBC and not baking from the heat a God sent. <br><br>If we ever met again I thought to do a talk for the group on these new boards. I've been moving away from openSUSE to Armbian ( Debian ) because of the easy and the fact it runs on most everything. Still hate Ubuntu ( Sorry DJPfulio). <br><br>Work, Jim I regret going to work for the CDC, our director IT has no directors and everything a dumpster fire. Though I can say my docker skills have grown. Now he talking about moving to the cloud, I am wondering, why, we haven't build out what we need to support our group. What a waste of our taxes dollars, but hey why should it be diff than most companies we have worked for, right. What is worse, I because a team lead. I ever tell you guys, I am introvert and hate people. Oh well. So on my death bed I can save I did, I was a manager of sorts, though I be happier in a DC listening to the hmm of million servers fans than the whines and lies of people. <br><br>Anyway, need to get pizza and beer, no longer a grey beard. I am now a white beard, TerrorPup the White. <br><table cellpadding="0" class="gmail-cf gmail-gJ" style="border-collapse:collapse;margin-top:0px;width:auto;font-family:"Google Sans",Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;display:block"><tbody style="display:block"></tbody></table></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:47 PM Lnx Gnome via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">No kidding. I keep trying to downsize, but it has been fruitless.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 10:02 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Since my daily driver became twin super computers I can't even look at the off-lease/warranty gear from eBay any more without wasting too much time figuring out what else it would need to be a baby testing environment for work stuff. "So 3-5 of those, more ram for each, a triplet of 2U drive boxes for lustre and new switch...." And suddenly that $250 used server morphs into a $15k 10 node cluster with a $400/month power bill to do.... nothing.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm beginning to think that HPC may be an addiction best treated with low-tech hobbies like gardening and metalsmith work. Just need to build out that CNC plasma cutter with a small cluster for a blender render farm to drive it....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 10:40 AM DJPfulio--- via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The list has been slow recently.<br>
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Refurb microtower Dell and passmarks below.<br>
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An ebay special ... All of us get asked by friends about cheap "servers".<br>
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Dell has a Core i3-8xxx refurb for $125 in a Micro Tower case. Free shipping. Perfect for non-gamers that want a small PC for cheap. Add a 2T-8T drive and you have a great backup server for your home LAN with 5300 passmark v10. Good enough for office work or media server, if that's your need.<br>
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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/385371116037" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/385371116037</a> - Seller has over 98% positive ratings on 290K sales.<br>
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Specs:<br>
Intel i3-8100T 3.1GHz 4-Core / 4-Thread Processor (35W)<br>
Intel HD Graphics 630<br>
8GB DDR4 2400MHz Memory<br>
128GB Solid State Drive<br>
Windows 10 Pro<br>
Ports:<br>
2x USB 2.0<br>
4x USB 3.1<br>
1xDisplayPort 1.2<br>
1xHDMI<br>
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Friends don't let friends by older computers when these are so very cheap. I'm still seeing 3rd - 5th generation PCs being sold for similar or higher prices. A 4rd gen Core i7 isn't better than this 8th gen Core i3. Compare<br>
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CPU Technology Max TDP Passmark v9<br>
i3 8300T DDR4 2400 8th Gen Coffee Lake 35W 7880<br>
i7 4765T 4th Gen Haswell 35W 7540<br>
i5 7500T 7th Gen Kaby Lake 35W 7485<br>
**i3 8100T DDR4 2400 8th Gen Coffee Lake 35W 7424**<br>
i5 4570S 4rd Gen Haswell 65W 7021<br>
i5 7400T 7th Gen Kaby Lake 35W 6887<br>
i5 6400 6th Gen Skylake 65W 6850<br>
i5 6500T DDR4 2400 6th Gen Skylake 35W 6340<br>
i5 6500T DDR3 6th Gen Skylake 35W 6280<br>
i5 7260U 7th Gen Kaby Lake 15W 5883<br>
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Don't get too worried about the 10s in any passmark scores. Round up/down to the closed hundreds<br>
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A Core i3-13xxx is around 15K passmarks. That's about the same as a Core i7-10xxxx. While I didn't check that Core i7 3 generations older than Core i3 are roughly the same performance, it does seem reasonable.<br>
Check it out: <a href="https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html</a><br>
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Posted because I hate to see people blowing more money than necessary. I don't know this seller, though I have bought used computers off ebay a few times when I needed something cheap and fast.<br>
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