<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">anyone designing a device that is DST-aware but has no means to adjust when it happens is an idiot.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 11:52 AM Scott M. Jones via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>I'd also like to add...  The millions
      of IOT devices out there that can never be updated, and thus will
      never be right if any change is made.  I have two of those "atomic
      clocks" that will be "wrong" five months out of the year if we
      don't change the clocks twice a year.  (On a more serious note:
      This may also include insulin pumps and other medical devices.)</div>
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    <div>Accidents?  More kids will be in the
      dark and cold during November-February at the bus stop with
      year-round DST.</div>
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    <div>Of course, those who don't go outside
      don't really need an extra hour of sunshine, right?</div>
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    <div>-Scott<br>
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    <div>On 3/14/22 6:39 PM, Pete Hardie via Ale
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">EF-Georgia
          weighs in:</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 6:33
          PM Raj Wurttemberg via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
              a positive note… Governor Kemp signed a bill making
              daylight saving time permanent in Georgia.</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/permanent-daylight-saving-time-bill-signed-into-law-georgia/J7TKTZJY4ZGCBIEHH3KFPFXGXA/" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" target="_blank">https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/permanent-daylight-saving-time-bill-signed-into-law-georgia/J7TKTZJY4ZGCBIEHH3KFPFXGXA/</a></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Unfortunately…
              from the same article… “Current federal law
              prohibits states from observing daylight saving time
              year-round.”  Sooo…
              This has to go to D.C. to get voted on there also. </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">/Raj</p>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at
              3:16 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As most functioning
              adults know, the annual stupidity action happened at 2am
              Sunday: yes, we changed the numbers on the clocks "so we
              could get more sunshine".<br>
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              Begin Rant<br>
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              Did anyone with access to writing in a national news
              medium ever actually take basic science? Did anyone with
              policy making responsibility actually pass a science class
              in their life?<br>
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              I don't think so.<br>
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              The time shift never made any sense. Now that there's a
              fair amount of evidence that is has a detrimental impact
              on human health maybe we should get rid of it. Yay! Great
              idea!<br>
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              But to shift permanently to DST "to get more sunshine" is
              just dumb.<br>
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              The east coast of USA (Unbelievably Stupid Authorities) is
              5 time zones away from the UTC zone. Not 4. <br>
              <br>
              Maybe we can get policy punks to take an astronomy class
              and learn about things like axial tilt being the reason
              the planet has seasons and that determines the length of
              time the sun is visible above the horizon.<br>
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              And if they still want more sunshine, and moving them to
              the equator is not an option (current occupants will ship
              them back), maybe we can ship them to Mercury.<br>
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