<div dir="ltr"><div>If you want to test the concept before game day, take your phone to a glass window where you would position a wifi repeater. Turn on your phone's wifi hotspot. Have someone else in the parking lot with their phone connect to your hotspot, and see what kind of signal they get. Beats the heck out of running a hard line to the shed out back! As long as you have LOS available between the two, you should be seeing at least 4 bars+</div><div>Best of luck and let us know what you find out. BTW, you're in my backyard almost... if you want help I'll be happy to come to the church there and help you out. RF stuff is my primary background.</div><div><br></div><div>Doug.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:46 PM SpaXpert, Inc. <<a href="mailto:spaxpert@gmail.com">spaxpert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>So you're covering the parking lot where the vendors will be located, not the green grass area behind it (to the north east?). You should do with wifi there... <br></div><div>Gorilla Tape this sucker to the church glass window:<br><a href="https://www.microcenter.com/product/451439/netgear-ex3700-wifi-range-extender" target="_blank">https://www.microcenter.com/product/451439/netgear-ex3700-wifi-range-extender</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:35 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Run the cable through 1/2" pvc. Cars can drive over it with a tapered 2x4 flanking it to keep it pinned down.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On June 25, 2021 9:15:48 PM EDT, Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<pre>Again, got to get over a parking lot which WILL be in use. Pavement <br>goes all around the building. Once we get across the parking lot, we <br>could run cat5 along the tree line to the tent.<br><br>On 2021-06-25 20:04, SpaXpert, Inc. via Ale wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex">Cat 6 is up to 300 meters? That's over 900 feet, with good quality<br>cable.<br><a href="https://www.belden.com/blogs/smart-building/real-cat-6a-cable-distance-limit-and-why-it-matters" target="_blank">https://www.belden.com/blogs/smart-building/real-cat-6a-cable-distance-limit-and-why-it-matters</a><br><br>On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:39 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(173,127,168);padding-left:1ex">I should have mentioned that cell coverage in the back field the<br>tent<br>occupies is lousy and intermittent.<br><br>On 2021-06-25 19:09, SpaXpert, Inc. via Ale wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex">This seems like a lot of overkill for a simple task these days.<br></blockquote>All<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex">you need is a wifi hotspot from a cell phone, and use a device<br></blockquote>like<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex">this:<br><a href="https://squareup.com/us/en/hardware/terminal" target="_blank">https://squareup.com/us/en/hardware/terminal</a><br><br>On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 7:16 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex">So considering the following Physical layout:<br><br>Business Comcast<br>|<br>regular untinted Window in Building we can get Cat6 to<br>|<br>100 feet of parking lot<br>|<br>Storage Building with power and overhang to protect from rain<br>|<br>150 feet of grass/trees - could run Cat6 wire easily<br>|<br>Tent selling German beer with credit card readers needing Wifi<br></blockquote></blockquote>(do I<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex"><br>have your attention now?)<br><br>And assuming we'd like for people to be able to buy beer, and we<br>have a<br>modest budget for networking, are there reasonable mesh<br></blockquote></blockquote>networking<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex">products that would work?<br><br>I have never put in a mesh network; if you read the fine print,<br></blockquote></blockquote>they<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex"><br>seem to assume all the nodes are clustered around a central node,<br>not<br>strung out in a line. (i.e. no backhaul)<br><br>I was initially advised to research ESP32 boards, but the paint<br>doesn't<br>seem quite dry on those. More of a Proof-of-Concept than a real<br>internet sharing strategy.<br><br>OTOH, efforts to do that with Raspberry PI does seem like a real<br>thing,<br>eg<br><br><br></blockquote></blockquote><a href="https://github.com/binnes/WiFiMeshRaspberryPi/blob/master/README.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/binnes/WiFiMeshRaspberryPi/blob/master/README.md</a><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex"><br>Which is extra handy for us, since we put up about a dozen PI<br></blockquote></blockquote>units<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex">a<br>people's homes for the Virtual Studio music thing, and aren't<br></blockquote></blockquote>using<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(252,175,62);padding-left:1ex">them<br>as much now.<br><br>Has anyone does this and have results to report?<br><br>regards,<br><br>Neal<hr>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool</div>_______________________________________________<br>
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