<html><head></head><body>Run the cable through 1/2" pvc. Cars can drive over it with a tapered 2x4 flanking it to keep it pinned down.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On June 25, 2021 9:15:48 PM EDT, Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Again, got to get over a parking lot which WILL be in use. Pavement <br>goes all around the building. Once we get across the parking lot, we <br>could run cat5 along the tree line to the tent.<br><br>On 2021-06-25 20:04, SpaXpert, Inc. via Ale wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Cat 6 is up to 300 meters? That's over 900 feet, with good quality<br>cable.<br><a href="https://www.belden.com/blogs/smart-building/real-cat-6a-cable-distance-limit-and-why-it-matters">https://www.belden.com/blogs/smart-building/real-cat-6a-cable-distance-limit-and-why-it-matters</a><br><br>On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 8:39 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale@ale.org><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">I should have mentioned that cell coverage in the back field the<br>tent<br>occupies is lousy and intermittent.<br><br>On 2021-06-25 19:09, SpaXpert, Inc. via Ale wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;">This seems like a lot of overkill for a simple task these days.<br></blockquote>All<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;">you need is a wifi hotspot from a cell phone, and use a device<br></blockquote>like<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;">this:<br><a href="https://squareup.com/us/en/hardware/terminal">https://squareup.com/us/en/hardware/terminal</a><br><br>On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 7:16 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale@ale.org><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;">So considering the following Physical layout:<br><br>Business Comcast<br>|<br>regular untinted Window in Building we can get Cat6 to<br>|<br>100 feet of parking lot<br>|<br>Storage Building with power and overhang to protect from rain<br>|<br>150 feet of grass/trees - could run Cat6 wire easily<br>|<br>Tent selling German beer with credit card readers needing Wifi<br></blockquote></blockquote>(do I<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>have your attention now?)<br><br>And assuming we'd like for people to be able to buy beer, and we<br>have a<br>modest budget for networking, are there reasonable mesh<br></blockquote></blockquote>networking<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;">products that would work?<br><br>I have never put in a mesh network; if you read the fine print,<br></blockquote></blockquote>they<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>seem to assume all the nodes are clustered around a central node,<br>not<br>strung out in a line. (i.e. no backhaul)<br><br>I was initially advised to research ESP32 boards, but the paint<br>doesn't<br>seem quite dry on those. More of a Proof-of-Concept than a real<br>internet sharing strategy.<br><br>OTOH, efforts to do that with Raspberry PI does seem like a real<br>thing,<br>eg<br><br><br></blockquote></blockquote><a href="https://github.com/binnes/WiFiMeshRaspberryPi/blob/master/README.md">https://github.com/binnes/WiFiMeshRaspberryPi/blob/master/README.md</a><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>Which is extra handy for us, since we put up about a dozen PI<br></blockquote></blockquote>units<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;">a<br>people's homes for the Virtual Studio music thing, and aren't<br></blockquote></blockquote>using<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;">them<br>as much now.<br><br>Has anyone does this and have results to report?<br><br>regards,<br><br>Neal<hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote><hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool</body></html>