<div dir="ltr"><div>Both Chrome and Firefox stopped doing sftp, too. We use sftp (or a web page) for customers to upload files. It was nice to be able to just click the link and see if files were there.</div><div><br></div><div>Brian</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 10:55 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Oh, I agree. FTP is a relic, but it still exists, and their still is a standard for it. Another small annoyance I find is the telnet client not being installed by default with most distros, Windows, etc... I don't think I have used it for actually telnetting to anything since the 1990s, but I'm in the habit of using it to check ports are responding (telnet dbservername 3306, or telnet webservername 443). I know there are multiple other modern tools I could use, but it is just learned behavior. Same with wget as opposed to curl - it works, and I don't see a need to use something else.<br>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Rant: internet for the stupid<br>
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I'm anti-plain FTP. Think it should have been killed off in 2002.<br>
Very unfriendly towards firewalls. Next to zero security. Worse if people are using non-anonymous logins.<br>
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Should admins be protected from their own ignorance? Why isn't nc used for all file transfers? That sure would be easier. /s<br>
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And don't get me started about VNC. The default VNC should only allow localhost connections so an ssh tunnel would most likely be used. If someone wants something else, they can configure that. If they can't figure out how, then they don't have any business changing the defaults.<br>
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- no shortage of opinions.<br>
Vim forever! I've never seen emacs on any commercial router.<br>
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On 6/3/21 10:41 AM, Allen Beddingfield via Ale wrote:<br>
> This, and the "war on http" they are waging is extremely annoying. I<br>
> don't want my browser doing anything but rendering content. Not<br>
> their place to filter the content/make security decisions.<br>
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> -- Allen Beddingfield Systems Engineer Office of Information<br>
> Technology The University of Alabama Office 205-348-2251<br>
> <a href="mailto:allen@ua.edu" target="_blank">allen@ua.edu</a><br>
><br>
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> ________________________________________ From: Ale<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>> on behalf of Boris Borisov via Ale<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:36 AM To: Atlanta Linux<br>
> Enthusiasts Cc: Boris Borisov Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ale] Rant:<br>
> internet for the stupid<br>
><br>
> Seems like major browsers don't support ftp anymore. A can't enter<br>
> ftp://×××.×××.×××.××× anymore. No is not that site :) So now people<br>
> need to be told what to open and what not.<br>
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