<html><head></head><body>Hey! Don't knock user friendly. Great cartoon. Userfriendly.org<br><br>Vimtutor. Nano got nothin'<br><br>'nuff said<br><br>:-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 26, 2021 9:48:48 PM EDT, Steve Litt via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Chuck Payne via Ale said on Wed, 26 May 2021 16:56:31 -0400<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Good Afternoon my fellow Grey Beards,<br></blockquote><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>So I have noticed that more and more post teaching people to do stuff<br>with config or anything on the CLI, are using nano.<br></blockquote><br>ROFLMAO --- coke spray :-) !!!<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>Why in Gods name would you teach them that. Is VI or VIM so hard. <br></blockquote><br>Not as hard as nano. It's like a different-keystroked Wordstar without<br>the help screens.<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> I<br>gave up on Emacs ( My first editor by the way ) years ago, but if you<br>worked on FreeBSD, you had vi. If you worked on Solaris, you had vi.<br>Linux has vi.<br><br>I have come to love VIM, I do most of my edits in vim. <br></blockquote><br>I like Vim so much I based VimOutliner on it. Vim's wonderful.<br><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> I enjoy color<br>syntax in vim.<br><br>I get the joke that exit is hard if you don't know how to do :q! or<br>:wq, but Emacs was so much harder with crtl-x something, something.<br><br>Anyway, every time I see nano, I want to scream, "You kids don't know<br>anything. Get a real editor."<br></blockquote><br>Can nano do block select/cut/paste? Does it enable keyboard-only people<br>with the authoring speed their skills are capable of? Can it change a<br>specific string on the third line below every instance of a different<br>string?<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>People who don't know the magic of doing things like %norm $T.D, to<br>delete everything after the period. Or the beauty of using sed to find<br>and replace. Truly are missing out.<br></blockquote><br>The more they addict people to "user friendly" (ignorant friendly<br>actually), the more they can do away with POSIX to sell their Linux<br>consulting and educational services.<br><br>SteveT<br><br>Steve Litt <br>Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful<br>Technologist <a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques">http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques</a><hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool</body></html>