<html><head></head><body>Vi/vim. I'm a sysadmin. When the system was in run level 1 with next to nothing mounted and/or working, vi was available. Busybox used to only have vi. <br><br>Ok. I started with pico. When I realized I was writing my perl code to get around the line length limit in pico was when I changed.<br><br>I see all these fancy things for vi/vim environment settings and I don't use them. I found that relying on a cool setting meant an emergency had my hands tied behind my back right when I need to be at the top of my game. <br><br>20+ years in vi and I still maneuver around like a newbie. Basic editing and block cut and paste and save to a new file name are the bulk operations. <br><br>The array of settings coders can use with vim are really amazing. It's also making sure they are only useful with that config. Maybe it's just me being lazy but the basic setup starting in RedHat v3.1 has JustWorked everytime.<br><br>I felt arthritic when I tried emacs. But I know people that can fly with it. Charles Shapiro is one in particular. I'm pretty slow outside of my burst mode. If I screw up, I run a risk of crashing out someone else's career off a bad command. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 26, 2021 4:56:31 PM EDT, Chuck Payne via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Good Afternoon my fellow Grey Beards, <div><br></div><div>So I have noticed that more and more post teaching people to do stuff with config or anything on the CLI, are using nano. </div><div><br></div><div>Why in Gods name would you teach them that. Is VI or VIM so hard. I gave up on Emacs ( My first editor by the way ) years ago, but if you worked on FreeBSD, you had vi. If you worked on Solaris, you had vi. Linux has vi. <br><br></div><div>I have come to love VIM, I do most of my edits in vim. I enjoy color syntax in vim. <br><br></div><div>I get the joke that exit is hard if you don't know how to do :q! or :wq, but Emacs was so much harder with crtl-x something, something. </div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, every time I see nano, I want to scream, "You kids don't know anything. Get a real editor." <br><br>People who don't know the magic of doing things like %norm $T.D, to delete everything after the period. Or the beauty of using sed to find and replace. Truly are missing out. </div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Terror PUP a.k.a<br>Chuck "PUP" Payne<br>-----------------------------------------<br>Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux.<br>-----------------------------------------<br>openSUSE -- Terrorpup<br>openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member<br>skypetwiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup<br>freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein<br>Register Linux Userid: 155363<br> <br>openSUSE Community Member since 2008. </div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool</body></html>