<div dir="ltr">Niel, <div><br></div><div>openSUSE 15.3 is being pushed to be 100% compatible with SLE. I like that. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:30 PM Niel Bornstein <<a href="mailto:nbornstein@gmail.com">nbornstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">FWIW, starting with SLE 15 SP3, openSUSE is going to be completely binary compatible with the enterprise product so there's no need for a developer subscription for SLE.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:20 PM Chuck Payne via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Derek, </div><div><br></div><div>16 Seat is great, but I like to have more, and who's to say I can't renew without a cost. Plus, I like to get something Free. I worry about licensing stuff on RHEL. <br><br>DJ-Pfulio <br><br>I use Debian ( No Ubuntu ) , but 90% of the servers are RHEL based. I support openSUSE ( member), but my bread and butter is as a Red Hat admin. The Dev Subscription is great, because CentOS didn't give you experience with Subscription Manager. Plus, I need to rebuild my Spacewalk Server. My old Spacewalk is on CentOS 7. Not political. I don't think I can install Spacewalk on RHEL, I will try. Licensing is my worry, not political. CentOS was great for using Dogtag, Keycloak) FreeIPA, Foreman and Spacewalk to learn on. RHEL you have to have licenses for IDM ( Dogtag/Keycloak/FreeIPA ) and Satellite ( Foreman/Spacewalk ). <br><br>No Offense, Ubuntu still drives me up the wall because you do an upgrade and things break. On all my Small Board Computer, I look to see if Armbian has a Debian base image to replace Ubuntu, just because doing simple upgrade on Ubuntu 18 and 20, broke things and I had to start over. <br><br>Allen<br><br>I use openSUSE 70% of my stuff, I use CentOS/Red Hat for the stuff I have to manage at work. Work doesn't take kindly to breaking stuff or spin up stuff. INFOSEC doesn't like it. <br><br>Where I am working as a contractor, the overall agency made a deal with Oracle to replace Red Hat. At first they made it sound like a replacement for CentOS. They are serious about using Oracle. Ugh. Lucky, my department doesn't fall under the IT Group any more, we still use Red Hat. We were told that it's only kernel replacement and repo update. I might have to download Oracle to see what is diff. Just Oracle, skin itches, even when I use VirtualBox. </div><div><br></div><div>James</div><div><br></div><div>Again 70% openSUSE, in fact I am moving from LEAP to Tumbleweed. Tumbleweed has been super stable and I don't have work about updating. When I worked for Dell has been only time I managed SLE server with SAP. I loved it. I wish SuSE would give dev seats like Red Hat because then I would set up SLE in my lab. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So why CentOS for me</div><div><br></div><div>Keycloak/Dogtag/FreeIPA ( IDM ) </div><div>Foreman ( Satellite 6 ) </div><div>AWX ( Ansible Tower ) <br><br></div><div>Spacewalk ( Even though it Satellite 5 ) . </div><div><br></div><div>These are my babies at work. </div><div><br></div><div>To the group</div><div><br></div><div>Uyuni? Hmmm I will have to look at it. Was surprise no one said anything about AlmaLinux. Or for that matter Rocky Linux. <br><br>So, that why I was asking who the winners was because it seem the chooses are, Oracle, AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, Red Hat ( Dev Account ), and now Uyuni. I was wanting to see what my peers are using. </div><div><br></div><div>Good stuff guys, thanks .</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">We are using SUSE Manager (which Uyuni is the upstream of) to manage approximately 500 systems. For licensing reasons, I have a separate Uyuni installation for CentOS, OEL, and openSUSE.<br>
I can't imagine trying to manage all of this without it! I don't even really do much with actually writing Salt states. I can accomplish most everything I need to do by registering everything as Salt minions, then using the config channels for push configs. <br>
We also use it for push-patching.<br>
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Have you had a chance to play with Uyuni much?<br>
I did an installation a while back, but other needs intervened and I never did any set up.<br>
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>>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> 5/18/2021 10:25 AM >>><br>
That would be my go-to solution as well. openSUSE Leap + Uyuni is a great setup. I assume this is for a RHEL clone requirement?<br>
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Why not openSUSE Leap?<br>
Do you need more Red Hat equivalence?<br>
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>>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> 5/18/2021 9:45 AM >>><br>
I don't like it, be we've been using OEL as a replacement for the handful of CentOS things we have.<br>
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Ok, Question for the group. I have a number of CentOS machines in my home lab that I need to replace. Thus the subject of my email, who is now the true CentOS replacement?<br>
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Has anyone tried it?<br>
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I have a dev. account with Red Hat, they do give 16 seats, but I like to use something to replace CentOS.<br>
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