<html><head></head><body>Slackware!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 18, 2021 1:59:03 PM EDT, Chuck Payne via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Allen, <div><br></div><div>Your fear about Oracle is my fear about Red Hat. This developer account I have had, over three years old. At one point, you got a year free then it was $99 a year for one server. So what to say, Red Hat won't try again. Now that Big Blue owns it. That makes me worry more. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:38 PM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Actually, between Red Hat and Oracle, I would pick Oracle. I have a deeper dislike for Red Hat! I've managed to keep Red Hat out of our operation as much as possible, with only a handful of systems. For Oracle, you can just download it for free - even the UEK kernel and use it. My concern is that they will get people to using that heavily, and suddenly kill the free option.<br>
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From: Chuck Payne <<a href="mailto:terrorpup@gmail.com" target="_blank">terrorpup@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:19 PM<br>
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
Cc: Allen Beddingfield<br>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?<br>
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Allen<br>
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I use openSUSE 70% of my stuff, I use CentOS/Red Hat for the stuff I have to manage at work. Work doesn't take kindly to breaking stuff or spin up stuff. INFOSEC doesn't like it.<br>
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Where I am working as a contractor, the overall agency made a deal with Oracle to replace Red Hat. At first they made it sound like a replacement for CentOS. They are serious about using Oracle. Ugh. Lucky, my department doesn't fall under the IT Group any more, we still use Red Hat. We were told that it's only kernel replacement and repo update. I might have to download Oracle to see what is diff. Just Oracle, skin itches, even when I use VirtualBox.<br>
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James<br>
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Again 70% openSUSE, in fact I am moving from LEAP to Tumbleweed. Tumbleweed has been super stable and I don't have work about updating. When I worked for Dell has been only time I managed SLE server with SAP. I loved it. I wish SuSE would give dev seats like Red Hat because then I would set up SLE in my lab.<br>
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So why CentOS for me<br>
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Keycloak/Dogtag/FreeIPA ( IDM )<br>
Foreman ( Satellite 6 )<br>
AWX ( Ansible Tower )<br>
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Spacewalk ( Even though it Satellite 5 ) .<br>
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These are my babies at work.<br>
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To the group<br>
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Uyuni? Hmmm I will have to look at it. Was surprise no one said anything about AlmaLinux. Or for that matter Rocky Linux.<br>
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So, that why I was asking who the winners was because it seem the chooses are, Oracle, AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, Red Hat ( Dev Account ), and now Uyuni. I was wanting to see what my peers are using.<br>
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Good stuff guys, thanks .<br>
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On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
We are using SUSE Manager (which Uyuni is the upstream of) to manage approximately 500 systems. For licensing reasons, I have a separate Uyuni installation for CentOS, OEL, and openSUSE.<br>
I can't imagine trying to manage all of this without it! I don't even really do much with actually writing Salt states. I can accomplish most everything I need to do by registering everything as Salt minions, then using the config channels for push configs.<br>
We also use it for push-patching.<br>
Allen B.<br>
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From: Ale <<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>>> on behalf of James Taylor via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:10 AM<br>
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re: [ALE] So the winner is?<br>
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Have you had a chance to play with Uyuni much?<br>
I did an installation a while back, but other needs intervened and I never did any set up.<br>
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>>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>> 5/18/2021 10:25 AM >>><br>
That would be my go-to solution as well. openSUSE Leap + Uyuni is a great setup. I assume this is for a RHEL clone requirement?<br>
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From: Ale <<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>>> on behalf of James Taylor via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:23 AM<br>
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
Cc: James Taylor<br>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] [ALE] So the winner is?<br>
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Why not openSUSE Leap?<br>
Do you need more Red Hat equivalence?<br>
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>>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>> 5/18/2021 9:45 AM >>><br>
I don't like it, be we've been using OEL as a replacement for the handful of CentOS things we have.<br>
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The University of Alabama<br>
Office 205-348-2251<br>
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From: Ale <<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a>>> on behalf of Chuck Payne via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>>><br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:43 AM<br>
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ale] [ALE] So the winner is?<br>
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Ok, Question for the group. I have a number of CentOS machines in my home lab that I need to replace. Thus the subject of my email, who is now the true CentOS replacement?<br>
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Has anyone tried it?<br>
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I have a dev. account with Red Hat, they do give 16 seats, but I like to use something to replace CentOS.<br>
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