<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ah. Not one I saw used before.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">BOFH is, of course, well-known<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:39 AM Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Pimply Faced Youth<br><br><a href="https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/" target="_blank">https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/</a><br><br>There are others that date back 20+ years<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On March 1, 2021 7:37:51 PM EST, Pete Hardie <<a href="mailto:pete.hardie@gmail.com" target="_blank">pete.hardie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">PFY ?<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:34 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Cloud<br><br>If your BOFH can't put the drives for the server in the backpack of the PFY on the way to the pub, is it really _your_ data.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On March 1, 2021 7:23:34 PM EST, Steve Litt via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<pre><br>On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:00:03 -0500<br>Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex">Snark alert<br><br>On March 1, 2021 4:02:43 PM EST, Solomon Peachy via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>><br>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(173,127,168);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 03:48:49PM -0500, Brent Laminack via Ale<br>wrote: <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex">Our organization wants to move about 3.5Tb of data from a local<br>file <br></blockquote>server <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex">(windows server 2012 R2) to a cloud-based solution. We want to use<br> <br></blockquote>OneLogin <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(138,226,52);padding-left:1ex">for SSO and provisioning. What would you recommend? Office<br>365/Sharepoint/OneDrive? Google Workspaces? Box? Nextcloud? any<br>recommendations or anti-recommendations would be welcome. Thanks, <br></blockquote><br>Questions:<br><br> * How many folks need to get to it<br> * Using what mechanism(s)<br> * Write-once, or more adhoc?<br> * Who manages accounts?<br> * Privacy (/regulatory) requirements<br> * Reliability requirements<br> * Bandwidth/performance requirements<br> * Budget<br><br>In other words, "why are you moving it outside your firewall?" <br></blockquote><br><br>Because a beancounter read an article about how everything is moving<br>to the cloud and having that on the resume looks good for the next<br>job.<br><br>I love that feeling of permanence knowing if I don't pay on time<br>every month it all shuts down. And mounting a filesystem over the<br>interwebs is screaming fast (if the user experience is discounted).<br></blockquote><br>AAAAAND:<br><br>I love that feeling of security knowing that the vendor will back up<br>regularly, with total restoreability, as if the data were their own.<br>And the fact that I can back it up locally on a 100MBps Internet line<br>at 80 seconds per Terrabyte *if* nobody else is using your Internet<br>line and if every single cable, device and router between you and them<br>is capable of 100mbit. If not, it's nothing a few hours of rsync will<br>do it. The vendor won't charge much for your traffic, right?<br><br>Also, it your data is sensitive, you can relax, knowing that the<br>vendors' server farms in the nation of Northwest Barfalonia, where<br>privacy laws are nonexistent, will vet all their employees and prevent<br>them from looking at your data (and blackmailing you).<br><br>SteveT<br><br>Steve Litt <br>Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times<br><a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive" target="_blank">http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive</a><hr>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool</div>_______________________________________________<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"></div></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool</div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Pete Hardie<br>--------<br>Better Living Through Bitmaps</div>