<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I shrug and take it or leave it. Over the years I’ve engaged well over 5,000 apps and keep in my head thousands of command options and uses. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What I *do not* like is the departure from the “UNIX Way”. The main philosophy of UNIX has served us very well over the decades, and should’ve remained in place. SystemD as an init system… meh. SystemD as init, and DNS, and network routing and and and…. That’s where I start to pipe up with “restraint, please.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">After all, we’re all technologists, and we’ll all have to deal with it in the enterprise, so suck it up. (This is what I tell myself). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anywho… let’s not let this spiral out of control on that regard.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—jms</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 5, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" class="">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">I LIKE systemd. Best tool yet for getting a ton of crap running on a huge array of bare metal and virtual. About as complex as tar.<br class=""><br class="">Some people just can't wrap their head around and bitch nonstop. <br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On February 5, 2021 6:14:36 PM EST, Steve Litt via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" class="">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 17:09:49 -0500<br class="">Leam Hall via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" class="">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">In theory, it's all Linux, and the layers on top are built for the<br class="">task you want. How difficult is it to build those layers so they are<br class="">extensible?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The preceding stopped being true with the introduction of systemd. <br class=""></pre></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>