<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Actually this had nothing to do with IBM. Red Hat, working with the CentOS Board had been looking at how to change CentOS Linux for a while. Red Hat still operates largely independently of IBM.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Red Hat agreed to acquire the CentOS Project because it needed funding and structure and a lot of Red Hat product developers, like those working on OpenStack, used CentOS Linux because getting RHEL was difficult. Red Hat created the Developer Subscription program, which essentially provides developers a zero-cost way of getting a variety of Red Hat products including RHEL and OpenShift.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Additionally, with CentOS Linux where it’s positioned as a downstream, in order to get a problem resolved, one had to get the update included in Fedora. Then convince the RHEL maintainer to pull the update into RHEL, then wait for the RHEL release at which time the updated package could be built for CentOS Linux. Or, alternatively, you pulled the source, applied your update, then compiled, installed, and maintained this package for the duration of your environment. With stream you can make direct PRs and the workflow for merging a change to CentOS Stream is much more sane. This benefits project contributors like Facebook and some National Labs.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Scott</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 8, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jim Kinney via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">That certainly tosses sand in the gears. Thank you IBM.<br><br>Granted most people use centos as an upstream dev setup anyway but the loss of a lts release will be a huge mess.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On December 8, 2020 3:48:11 PM EST, "Beddingfield, Allen via Ale" <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Sounds like a good time for people to re-evaluate, and move to openSUSE Leap (or Ubuntu LTS or OEL if you are into that sort of thing lol)<br><br><a href="https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/centos-linux-8-will-end-in-2021-and-shifts-focus-to-centos-stream/">https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/centos-linux-8-will-end-in-2021-and-shifts-focus-to-centos-stream/</a><br><br>--<br>Allen Beddingfield<br>Systems Engineer<br>Office of Information Technology<br>The University of Alabama<br>Office 205-348-2251<br>allen@ua.edu<hr>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Computers amplify human error<br>Super computers are really cool<span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Ale mailing list</span><br><span>Ale@ale.org</span><br><span>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</span><br><span>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</span><br><span>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>